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At least on this forum, with the exception of one person, everyone that has swanned has returned. The ones that tend not to return are those that go quietly away.

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Maybe people will remember who the price gougers are and avoid doing business with them in the future.
Except for the rich people.


That which doesn’t kill you really hurts like hell.
I am sorry Serenity has left, for her contributions, though serious at times, were always a reflection on her sense of family values & good humour.

14th July 2005
The rest of this post has been deleted, as it is no longer even faintly amusing.

See post at end for apology (even though Rick never apologises for his behaviour!)
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Camera,

Not to disappoint you:
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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
Note two things - it follows two principles of *ricks postings - always quote something from the database, always throw the question back on you.
“Always”? (I couldn’t resist) Anyway, a lot of my quoting is because Serenity has the nasty habit of going back and deleting and editing posts well after I’ve responded to them – her Swan Song is an example.

Are you suggesting that linking to other posts, especially AS’ support staff, is something that should be avoided?

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
I am sorry Serenity has left
Oh, please! She’s done this before (she was only gone 2 days) and she’ll probably do it again. People throw these tantrums when things aren’t going the way they want them to go.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
*rick (* the p is silent - as in psalm)
Mature.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
we just ignore him/it?
“It”? Very mature.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
As most of you know, I have tried to get *rick … ejected
”Ejected”? Please elaborate. Is this some more Private Messaging thing? I so wish some of you wouldn’t hide in the PM sewers. Or, has this gone to some “higher” level of intrigue? Talk about someone trying to control this forum. Come on, tell me all about this ejecting stuff here on the public forum.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
I have no real wish to play with another computer program
Then why do you continue to do this? You have come to Serenity’s “rescue” 6 or 7 times. Something tells me you like to rescue people – maybe a power trip? I got that feeling when you posted this:
https://community.auctionsniper.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/58...721071801#2721071801
“even up the odds a bit”? So many “odd”, so few “even”. At least you got away from using asterisks, and glad the "Latin" phase is over.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
Me? Well like the majority of "old hands" on the forum, we just ignore him/it?
Yes, I can see by all these posts that everyone is doing a wonderful job of “ignoring”.
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That's a bit steep - positively vertical in fact.


I think Emo old bean the word your looking for is:
vertiginous (as in impossibly steep)
However it has other meanings:
1. Affected with vertigo; giddy; dizzy.
2. Causing or tending to cause dizziness.
3. Turning round; whirling; revolving.
4. Inclined to change quickly or frequently; inconstant

I think some of these apply.

14th July 2005
Amended as I think this is also no longer amusing - if ever it were
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Based on the “current” issue, would someone be so kind as to tell me what warranted Serenity’s “latest” outburst? She posted her peace/hope (ironic) candle link originally without the farewell. Then I posted “Oh, something tells me there are still a few surprises out there for you.” Then Serenity went back and edited her post to add her Swan Song. Now, doesn’t that strike you as a little theatrical? And, it appears, based on timestamps, that she swanned because of that “surprises” comment (prophetic – yes; inappropriate - no) of mine.

Let me recap some of the behavior here:
  • BJ has insinuated that I’m dd101.
  • Serenity says I’ve had a long agenda of trying to “take over” (something it would appear that I’m doing a very poor job at based on the responses on this thread.
  • Serenity says I’ve “made her life miserable”. Isn’t that just a little dramatic? Her “life”? This is just a forum, folks!
  • Jake says I once made a comment about my seeking fame and fortune by having my name appear on all the categories on the main page, but can’t supply any specifics. (by the way Jake, I’m half way there!)
  • Jake talks about people crying? Come now!
  • Of course, his assorted name-calling leaves something to be desired.
  • Camera’s post was freshly recapped.


But, I’m the one that needs “ejecting”?

I saw no need for Serenity to be rude to dd101, and that is what I’m been focused on. Apparently being rude to new members is considered OK? In fact, Dave (the regular), was the one to encourage dd101 into his harmless post. If you want to beat up on anyone, beat up on Dave (the regular)

Chatter likes to use this link:
http://www.exclusivelymahjongg.com/FINGTOW2.jpg
Maybe it’s appropriate here?

I think “NICHT MEHR” is German for “NO MORE” – definitely not theatrical.



Not just another AS forum – it’s an ADVENTURE.
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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
I seem to have scored a "Bulls Eye" - several congratulatory messages "pinged" their way into my box.
“Several”? In one hour’s time? I thought only the deities hovered over this forum, and I’m a little miffed at the implication that I would PM you, or ping or do anything to your box. I’m not that kind of guy.

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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
I thought the suggestion that we give "it" a virus rather cruel though!
Is that more of what you call humor? If it isn’t, it sounds like one of the natives is getting restless – Prozac time? If it is, then you must have thought WWII was a “gas”. Yes, I’ve often thought you missed your true calling. Instead of “teaching” young brains, you should have been a standup comic – at funerals.

Now, I don’t want anyone to accuse me of controlling the forum (as Jake points out, my 15-minutes appears to be on the forum’s home page), and I know everyone is having a grand old time, and thoroughly enjoying themselves, otherwise, why do all this posting, but perhaps there are some out there that feel the “regulars” are getting a little (tiny) bit carried away and that new members coming to this forum might think twice, or more, before posting to this fun group of people? (finally, the end of the sentence) Strange, it appears the new members (“mostly”) on this thread are more observant of this then the regulars. Also strange, it appears there’s no minimum age requirement for this forum, or if there is, there’s no test that verifies that members act that age. Of course, if bashing feels better, who am I to force others to my way of thinking?
I was away for the weekend and once again I have returned to a horrible situation. This a terrible loss to our forum and I share the sorrows of those who lament the loss of yet another wonderful member. I do hope that she eventually returns. I also concur with those who have properly faulted the malefactor in question.

Like most people of questionable virtue, the individual is quick to remind others that they have the right to not read his posts, to not read the forum, refrain from making responses, etc. This is, of course, all true. However, what the childish party does NOT discuss is whether or not he SHOULD be harassing someone else. Just because one has the right to do something, does not mean that he OUGHT to do it. A mature, ethical person refrains from doing a great deal that he could otherwise do. This is is the hallmark of true maturity.

Instead, the poor specimen of humanity chooses an older person and then relentlessly picks on her, makes snide remarks and innuendos, and by his own admission runs Google searches on her. I have never even thought of googling anyone in this forum, let alone actually done it, to say nothing of attempting to find something that someone else has said, which may be used for purposes of harrassment. I have a life and do not need to resort to such petty entertainment. But apparently the slimeball in question has sufficient time and motivation on his hands.

But the fact remains that he has continued to hammer and pound her, even after she has repeatedly asked him to stop. But that is OK; after a handful of days, he will simply ignore her pleas and proceed to toy with her. Should she or anyone else call him on it, he will blithely offer the excuse that he must compensate for what he feels is her rudeness to someone else. Is that not what guilty people always do? They turn the story around and blame their own misbehavior on someone else.

Mrs. M has NEVER, EVER deliberately been rude to anyone here and even where she may have spoken out in response to someone's remarks (as in the recent case, in which another member may well have been attempting humor, but really did not know us well enough to effectively deliver facetious nationalistic commentary, thus the outcome did indeed appear a bit rude), Mrs. M's utterances pale when compared to the intentionally calculated mind games of the ruffian. She has NEVER attempted to engage in this sort of behavior, yet the ruffian does so daily. He has no respect for his elders; all he knows how to do is uphold his rights and try to make himself look like an innocent bystander. He caused this to happen and he knew, during the entire time that he was making various remarks and doing his internet searches to give himself ammunition, that she was hurt by it. Yet, being a certain kind of a person, he ignored her misery and continued to hurt her.

When this cyberthug reaches his retirement years, may he find that others--online or otherwise--treat him in a far better way than he has treated our dear friend, lest he be reminded of his own youthful indiscretions. Mad
I have no problems with Chatter doing his normal thing, but I would like to clear up a few things:

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Originally posted by Chatter:
… the malefactor in question.
You can call me by name. It won’t hurt my feelings. I think we’re way beyond innuendoes.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
A mature, ethical person refrains from doing a great deal that he could otherwise do. This is is the hallmark of true maturity.

Would that include this last post of yours?

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Originally posted by Chatter:
and by his own admission runs Google searches on her.
Oh god! Here we go again. Would you tell me where I said that? Now Chatter, you likewise don’t have a great record when it comes to detective work.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
I have never even thought of googling anyone in this forum, let alone actually done it, to say nothing of attempting to find something that someone else has said, which may be used for purposes of harrassment.
Ah! Now I think I remember. You mean this post:
https://community.auctionsniper.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/98...731046701#7731046701
Now, if you spent more time on Infopop, you would know about spiders and such. Boy, people sure do like to put words into other’s posts and come up to all kinds of conclusions. If I were actually doing “it”, would I warn people about it? Amazing, I try to warn others, and Chatter sees some hidden and devious meaning.

Are you upset because I guessed the “163” in your old ID was your birthday (Jan. 1963)?

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Originally posted by Chatter:
I have a life and do not need to resort to such petty entertainment.
I can see that.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
But apparently the slimeball
Mature.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
Is that not what guilty people always do? They turn the story around and blame their own misbehavior on someone else.
Do you mean like you are doing right now? (I know, I just love to do those kinds of things)

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Originally posted by Chatter:
She has NEVER attempted to engage in this sort of behavior, yet the ruffian does so daily.
She has her moments.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
He has no respect for his elders;
Partially accurate. I don’t respect someone strictly for aging. I respect people for their accomplishments and their actions. A comatose person ages; grass ages. Also, a bit of caution here Chatter – I could be your elder – boy, wouldn’t that cause some rethinking of your clichés.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
He caused this to happen and he knew, during the entire time that he was making various remarks and doing his internet searches to give himself ammunition, that she was hurt by it.
Where do you come up with this stuff? Do you dream this kind of stuff on your own, or do you have help? And if you have help, are you the brains of the gang? Give me one (just one) example where I’ve done some internet search and then used some ammunition against Serenity, or anyone.

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Originally posted by Chatter:
cyberthug
Clever. Is that an original?

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Originally posted by Chatter:
reaches his retirement years
Who says I’m not already retired? Have you been doing Google searches on me?

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Originally posted by Chatter:
his own youthful indiscretions.
Why does everyone assume I’m young? Actually, no one assumes it - they are way beyond that - they are in the “I know it” stage. Where/whom did THIS theory come from?

Chatter (or anyone), since some are being so “honest”, would you care to share some more of the gossips that goes on about me. I’ve seen the fantasies that get conjured up in PM’s, so I’d love to hear all the things about me, that I don’t know.

Man, is this some contest to see who can come up with the nuttiest theories.



P.S. Jake, I’ve still got three forums covered, but it’s getting harder to keep them up there. Hope you get to see them.



NEXT?
I say, Camera old chap, haven’t laughed so much since Papa got drunk and chased the gardener through the shrubbery with his elephant gun – thought he was a bally rhinoceros don't you know. Jolly good thing he forgot to load it. Don't know how he would have explained his latest hunting trophy to the taxidermist, let alone the local constabulary, what?

Emo
Where am I from???? Where am I....????? By jove, you yourself must hail from one of the bally colonies, what? And judging by the vernacular, one that has been out of contact with the Mother Country for far too long!

Thank you anyway for what I assume to be a compliment. Nice to know ones small efforts are enough to cause another to douse the denims, what?

Emo
Well, I've only been on this forum for just over a week and have found it more of a repository for social outcasts and personality disorders than for any assistance with a bidding tool. What is this fallacy that serenity was welcoming and guided newbies gently by the hand to a land of glowing candles and successful bids? Certainly not the experience I've had.

Humour is OK as long as it's only generated by one of the "regulars" then it can take the form of character assassination, delusion or downright rudeness.

It seems best to have an alternative personality or several just to keep up with the volleys of disparaging postings, at least one of which should be a fop or Little Lord Fauntleroy just to amuse the natives [oh sorry we killed all of those] - I meant the colonials.

Politics and religion are disdained unless of course it's of the brand and variety promoted by one of the incumbents. Flag waving jingoism is lauded just to ensure that the forum stays white and pure and without the riff raff of radicals or communists or .........................................

Should anyone have the temerity to have a different independent viewpoint then courteous argument does not suffice. There is this well rehearsed back slapping, aggressive, belittlement that emanates from these postings - doubting your character, your existence and even your sex.

I really don't have much more time to waste outlining the gracious welcome I have had, it is all there in the texts of previous messages [unless of course somebody should go back and edit them!]. In fact Rick has been one of the few contributors here who has been friendly and helpful and tried to present the intended humour in an inoffensive way.

This is no doubt why you lot of arrogant, overbearing, smug, self satisfied low brows [yes you know who you are] are presently trying to black ball him. Please gods [of whatever variety you choose] save me from those who live their lives vicariously through forums.

Dave [dd101] M UK - a real person.
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This is no doubt why you lot of arrogant, overbearing, smug, self satisfied low brows [yes you know who you are] are presently trying to black ball him.


All of those and more!

If you look at my posts, I think you'll find I'm a fairly infrequent visitor to these shores. Its just that I heard a few cries of distress in May and flew in doing my best imitation of Ardal O'Hanlon

I rather proud of my role as Thermoman, so don't knock it! Dave, believe you me, there were loads of people helping newcomers and there was a lot of friendly banter.

I have no personal axe`to grind, I normally ignore characters like rick, but he has a way with him that is very "offputting" to the ladies and the less brash. I watched his behaviour for a while and felt that the complaints were justified.

Look, judging by your showing so far, you too can "throw your weight around" if needs be. I am in that phase, not particularly edifying, but sometimes the needs justify the ends.

There was once a utopia of friendliness and help on these boards - honest!

In the meantime - back to work - hopefully I can announce "job done" shortly. If not there are plenty of other strategies.

Will passing Australians & Americans please not abuse newbie "Dave" for a while - he is showing himself to be a bit "sensitive" to all this gore around him. I mean, like all Englishmen, it doesn't mean that if you were beaten soundly at school (I was!) that you can take it!

Flower power Paul (really!)
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Why do you think I like the forum so much? Yes, ever since I had to leave Nevada, and all those delightful ranches and centers of sensual entertainment, I've had to find other outlets for me pleasure.

had = it involves an illicit proposition I made to the police chief’s wife. The chief didn’t mind, but the wife felt cheapen and outraged by the experience – I should have offered another $50.
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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
Will passing Australians & Americans please not abuse newbie "Dave" for a while
Define “a while”, Camera. At least we finally agree that people were being rude and/or abusive to dd101. Say, you left out Brits, and why the plural on Australian? Lexie and GG are the only Aussies, and Lexie isn’t rude. Lots of rude Americans, though, so we agree there.

I gather that the Rick & dd101 conspiracy to take over the forum has joined the pile of other silly theories. So hard to get people to actually come out and admit they were wrong, let alone, say they were sorry.








PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR DD101’s EYES ONLY!
WARNING – ignore, if you can, the rest of this post.

Dave,

Camera appears somewhat confident (or boisterous) that I’m to be expunged from the forum. Should that happen, and you stick around, you might find this helpful:

Nationalities:

Aussies:
Bartelby (Lexie)
Gardengnome (GG)

Brits:
Camera Collector (Paul)
Mike from West Yorkshire
region2 (R2)

Yanks:
bjones9942 (BJ)
Chatter
Dave
Falcon Gal (Christine)
I’d rather be shopping (Shop)
Jabbergah (Jabber, Jab)
Jakedduck (Jake)
Serenity (Mrs. M)
Rick
WIN¯¯IT¯¯ALL® (I think this is the right country)

?????:
Emohawk (Emo)

Hey, if I left you out, don’t get pissed. You weren’t suppose to be reading this, anyway.
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Originally posted by Camera Collector:
1.3 grams
20 grains
Over my head, Paul. Is this one of your other strategies - you're going to metric me to death? Fine! I'm up for the challenge, but what ever you do, PLEASE, don't go back to Latin. Rap music - yes; Latin - no. That would be cruel.

Talking about metric (you weren't, I am), how do you guys record a person's height? In metric?
Gonna jump in here for a minute, well....coz I want to.

Re: Measuring stuff....

Depends on the generation, to what measurements are used.
See, my parents generation still talk in foot and inches and pounds.

My generation tends to talk in a combination of both. Guess that comes from having the metric system fairly new when I was at school and having parents/siblings that talked *old school*.

When I think of height, I always use feet and inches, but I know my metric height.

My nephews and neices are always *what's a foot in centimetres?"...I guess they are metric only.

Big Grin Way off topic, but you get that.

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