How about a loan???

Lexie,

Are you purposing joint custody, or would I only have one weekend a month, supervised visitations with this baby?

Why is it going for so much??

Try this one:

it's cheaper!

And this one is still available having failed to make its reserve of £25K

Can't bring it up, Camera

Rick - Supervised visitations only!! In fact, they would be passenger seat visitations only.

Mrs M - Its the last ever one being produced. Monaro (like the old GT over there) is something of an Aussie legend and the newer models are $60k+, this one is just super special.

Camera - LOL with our currency conversion, the reserve is $60k anyways...so I could get a new one for that!!

Lexie - Happy Birthday Robbie!!!!

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Lexie - Happy Birthday Robbie!!!!

A few more hours to go for us Yanks.

Maximillion? Parents with big expectations.

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In fact, they would be passenger seat visitations only.

Seats with Rick restraints?

OIC, Lexie..Wow! One would really have to want it

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Originally posted by Camera:
Try this one:

it's cheaper!

And this one is still available having failed to make its reserve of £25K

Sheesh! Twenty grand for a secondhand Vauxhall! Short of a couple of doors, as well. Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.
Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

There you go Mike..you could even run it through the car wash for her.

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Originally posted by Bartelby:
(luckily I have been able to drive one for a few months whilst it was at work)....

Lexie, looks like the car hauls ass, or incase you get a partner (me) to help finance this venture, asses. How was the few-month-test-drive? Was it as good for you as it was for the car? Did you get a lot more attention from guys?

I think I’d be pissing my pants if I placed an AU $187,000 (US $138,000) bid.

Too bad so many people are putting in bogus bids on a charity auction.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.

Sorry, Mike, but in this part of the planet whoopee cushions are something that sound like farts when one sits on them:
http://events.clowningaround.com/images/Carnival%20Stor...oopee%20cushion.jpeg
Obviously, another indication of my Yankee isolationism, unless in England cars come equipped with fart-sounding seats.

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Originally posted by Mike from West

Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

Will mine have whoopee cushions in it????

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Originally posted by Rick:

I think I’d be pissing my pants if I placed an AU $187,000 (US $138,000) bid.

I would not have any pants left, Rick!

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.

Sorry, Mike, but in this part of the planet whoopee cushions are something that sound like farts when one sits on them:
Obviously, another indication of my Yankee isolationism, unless in England cars come equipped with fart-sounding seats.

They are the same here as well, Rick. Sold in joke shops

What I was talking about was a Mikeism - air-bags - I call them whoopee cushions, although if you got injured by one, there would not be much to celebrate.

Sadly, my everyday car has one - nowt I can do about it, as if I removed it the insurance would be invalidated. Thankfully it is sans ABS, or as the tautological marketroids would have it, ABS brakes.

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Originally posted by Bartelby:

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Originally posted by Mike from West

Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

Will mine have whoopee cushions in it????

Probably dozens of the buggers, Lexie - see above

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Originally posted by Mrs.M.:
There you go Mike..you could even run it through the car wash for her.

At this price, Lexie may object to me covering it in lots of tiny scratches, Shirl.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Sadly, my everyday car has one - nowt I can do about it, as if I removed it the insurance would be invalidated.

Mike, have you had a bad experience with air-bags (aka whoopee cushions), or do you have a general distrust of something waiting to blow up in your face?

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Thankfully it is sans ABS

What do you have against ABS?

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
tautological

Great word!

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, have you had a bad experience with air-bags (aka whoopee cushions), or do you have a general distrust of something waiting to blow up in your face?

The latter, Rick! I cannot see what use they are, as if you are using your safety belts (a legal requirement here) air-bags are not needed.

Maybe the cynic in me says that one of the design team meetings went something like:

DT wallah 1 "What can we persuade the public tha they must have on our cars - we have exhausted most of the safety stuff now?"

DT wallah 2 "It will have to be something that is a legal requirement, as well"

DT wallah 3 "Also, it must be unavailable in the aftermarket, and expensive"

DT director "Hmmm....we've already done catastrophic converters - how about air bags?"

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What do you have against ABS?

A few things - generally, like other gizmos, they lull the user into a false security so they are not as attentive as they should be.

They reduce braking power.

Any extra complications in a braking system with potential failures are a bad thing

The wheel sensors are in prone to failure and are unnecessarily expensive (a coil with a bit of cable on it)

Primary safety - prevention, not cure - would save more lives.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
A few things - generally, like other gizmos, they lull the user into a false security so they are not as attentive as they should be.

Mike, I have a hard time blaming gizmos for drivers’ lack of attentiveness. I doubt drivers are less attentive today then they were before some of today’s gizmos. I know there’s some research(es) floating around that says ABS and 4/all-wheel drive causes drivers to be cockier, but I’m not sure how one can measure cockiness (Lexie, I know you’re tempted by that last statement). And, things like ABS probably helps someone that panics. One gizmo that definitely gives drivers a false security are brakes. I believe that if breaks were removed from all cars, that people would drive a heck of a lot slower (after the initial carnage) and be a lot more cautious, and perhaps stop driving entirely.

Traffic lights are another one of those gizmos, at least here in the round-about-less States. A better safety solution would be stop signs at all intercessions, thus it would take two inattentive drivers to cause an accident, versus only one being necessary with traffic lights.

And talk about faith in ones fellow-mankind, those little painted lines between oncoming traffic turn driving into a cult experience. On a road with a 55 MPH speed limit, the head-on impact speed of two cars would be 110 MPH, and that’s assuming both drivers aren’t doing 70. Compare to airbags, those little painted lines don’t do a lot for my safety concerns, although an impact at those speeds, I doubt the airbags would make any difference.

In fact, one could make the argument that seat belts “lull the user into a false security”. And they may add “extra complications” in the passenger removal system.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Primary safety - prevention, not cure - would save more lives.

RIGHT ON, and by prevention I understand you to mean awareness. I’m of the opinion that all (or damn near all) traffic accidents are avoidable (including rear-end collisions) if at least one of the drivers doesn’t have the misguided belief that other drivers will do what they are suppose to do, or should do.

Rick
I can understand what you are saying - some things are probably different in different countries, anyhow.

The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map. All of these are of course illegal.

One result of more powerful brakes is that tailgating is rife - no-one looks far enough in front to see what is happening, so we get these multiple pile-ups on motorways.
They have no concept of stopping distances at all.
Some of the HGVs are the worst offenders and can wreak much more havoc and kill more people.

Difficult to police, whereas speeding is a no-brainer and gets revenue!

The other growing problem is aggressiveness - no-one with a short fuse should be allowed to drive a vehicle at all, IMHO. The worst ones are in the 17-25 range, who throw their toys out of the pram at any opportunity.


Jumping red traffic lights is on the increase here as well - even buses do it! Some intersections have cameras on them, but people still get killed or injured this way.

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The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map. <snip> ...tailgating is rife - no-one looks far enough in front to see what is happening, so we get these multiple pile-ups on motorways.
They have no concept of stopping distances at all.

One of my pet-peeves -- I like to leave space between me and the car in front so I have more reaction time, because I'm, well..you know...eating lunch and steering with my knees! Anyway, inevitably someone will pass me and slide into the space in front of me. So then I need to back off again to create my buffer zone, and somebody else pulls in the space in front of me! It seems like I'm backing up all the time -- it's a wonder I ever get to where I'm going! Where was I going anyway???

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map.

My hat is off to anyone that can eat a meal using a knife and fork while driving – chopsticks are a close second. I’m a big advocate of driving and putting on makeup, as long as she, or he, is in front of me. It does pucker my sphincter when I see someone in my rearview mirror doing it, especially eyeliner.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
All of these are of course illegal.

Mike, I’m uncertain whether all that’s illegal here in the States. I think it’s called hands-free driving.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
One result of more powerful brakes is that tailgating is rife

I’ve never seen a tailgater that I couldn’t get a wave from – well, a one finger wave.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The other growing problem is aggressiveness - no-one with a short fuse should be allowed to drive a vehicle at all, IMHO.

I’d like to see cars equipped with a horn-govern. Each car is allocated so many honks each year, say 5, and once those are used up one would have to pay a honk-tax to get more honks. It could be included with the annual licensing fee and part of the emissions test; after all, honking is a form of emissions.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The worst ones are in the 17-25 range, who throw their toys out of the pram at any opportunity.

It’s hormonal. That’s the best age to draft them. There’s never a conscription around when you need it.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Some intersections have cameras on them, but people still get killed or injured this way.

I got my first camera/radar speeding ticket a couple of weeks ago. I was more fascinated with the technology then bummed out about the fine. I think the city is missing an extra source of revenue by not selling additional copies of the photos – I never get to see myself driving my car.

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
eating lunch and steering with my knees!

Is that with a manual transmission. Ever tried dipping Chicken McNuggets in a sauce while driving?

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
it's a wonder I ever get to where I'm going!

At least when you arrive, you’re not hungry. But, it does help to have a Dust Buster to remove the lap crumbs.



Good thing cars don’t come equipped with driver DVD players (I hope that’s true), although GPS is close. Haven’t seen a hairdryer being used in a car - might be a something car manufactures could install instead of a headrest for the driver. Headrest doesn’t sound like something a driver should have – or pillows.

Perhaps cup holders and ashtrays should be eliminated.

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Originally posted by Rick:
I got my first camera/radar speeding ticket a couple of weeks ago. I was more fascinated with the technology then bummed out about the fine. I think the city is missing an extra source of revenue by not selling additional copies of the photos – I never get to see myself driving my car.

Here, Rick, you can actually request a copy of the two pictures!

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
eating lunch and steering with my knees!

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Is that with a manual transmission.

Can't think there are many of these in USA?
Or am I wrong there?

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Ever tried dipping Chicken McNuggets in a sauce while driving?

No, nor anywhere else!!

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Perhaps cup holders and ashtrays should be eliminated.

Cup holders are the current fad of the marketroids! I believe that ashtrays are disappearing from cars, not that it matters - the puff 'n' cough brigade usually chuck the dimps out of the window, possibly aiming at a cyclist or bit of tinder-dry forest or moorland for added effect.
Those that do use them dump the contents on the nearest supermarket car park.

Cigar lighters are useful to act as handy sockets for 12v supplies for things.

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Here, Rick, you can actually request a copy of the two pictures!

Outstanding. I’ll be able to add the picture to this year’s Christmas cards.

CAUTION TO ADULTERERS: Either don’t speed or take separate cars.

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Can't think there are many of these in USA?
Or am I wrong there?

Which one, Mike? Knee steering or manual transmissions?

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I believe that ashtrays are disappearing from cars, not that it matters -

I wonder why they still have them in airplanes. Probably for the mint wrappers.

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Cigar lighters are useful to act as handy sockets for 12v supplies for things.

Cigar lighters in British cars? Is that a carry over from Churchill?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Which one, Mike? Knee steering or manual transmissions?

Manual trannies, Rick. Cannot understand why all cars are not auto, now, or at least semi-auto, as the DS was in 1955.

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Cigar lighters in British cars? Is that a carry over from Churchill?

For some reason, they have always been so called. IIRC they appeared first in the early 1930s - I had a 1934 Lanchester with one. I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?
They are just a handy power supply, now.
FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England. Republic of Ireland have already done it.

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Cannot understand why all cars are not auto, now, or at least semi-auto, as the DS was in 1955.

Manual transmission advantages:

1. Improved gas mileage
2. Cheaper to buy
3. Faster
4. Sports car aura
5. Alternative to nose picking
6. One less automatic gizmo to fail
7. Rev engine at stops
8. Rev engine when downshifting
9. More acceptable to wear racing gloves
10. Gives left foot something to do

I’ve numbered them, Mike, to make it easier for you to point out my mistakes.



What are your views on the following:

1. Cruise control
2. Parking assist
3. Minimum/maximum age for males to have cars
4. Minimum/maximum age for females to have cars

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I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?

Yes.

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FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England.

Is that good news or bad?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Manual transmission advantages:

1. Improved gas mileage
2. Cheaper to buy
3. Faster
4. Sports car aura
5. Alternative to nose picking
6. One less automatic gizmo to fail
7. Rev engine at stops
8. Rev engine when downshifting
9. More acceptable to wear racing gloves
10. Gives left foot something to do

I’ve numbered them, Mike, to make it easier for you to point out my mistakes.

'Ere goes, Rick:
1 - true in earlier autos where the engine was never connected directly to the transmission - most do now, so the continual slip does not happen; the driver of a manual can waste petrol more easily!
2 - mainly true, but only for new.
3 - on our overcrowded islands, not a problem.
4 - probably!
5 - I see many who manage both!
6 - true, for the later ones with electronics in them. Earlier autos are purely mechanical, and more reliable than a manual trans plus clutch.
7 - will negate any better fusl consumption.
8 - autos do this anyhow - doing it on a manual gives a smoother change and causes less work for the synchros.
9 - dunno - cannot wear gloves when I drive.
10 - if you are really agile, you could do (5)

And the rest:
(a) more useful in uncrowded roads, maybe, but again, this is something that is one less item for the driver to concentrate on. They are notoriously unreliable as well.
(b) no problem, if people need it. In the current blob-shaped cars, they probably do.
(c)and d) - minimum - the 17 one we have now, but I think there should be a licence with some restrictions until, say, 21, as this is the age when they tend to write themselves off, and others as well.
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

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What are your views on the following:

1. Cruise control
2. Parking assist
3. Minimum/maximum age for males to have cars
4. Minimum/maximum age for females to have cars

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I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?

Yes.

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FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England.

Is that good news or bad?

Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.
There were a few interviews on TV on the subject; the few that were against it were predictably of what I call the Sun reader ilk, "I fink basicly that, like, I should be able to smoke, like, know wot ah mean?"

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
'Ere goes, Rick:

Wow. I did better than I thought I would. I got one “mainly true”.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
10 - if you are really agile, you could do (5)

That either means picking one’s left toes instead of one’s nose, or it could mean picking your nose with your toes.



Another device that’s waiting for the right market that could be engaged with cruise control – an APD (Automatic Pedicure Device). All right, I know how much you hate having too many automated things in the car, so perhaps it could be a MPD. I would also propose that the driver side vanity mirror be disabled when cruise control is enabled.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

I still believe that if you can’t see over the steering wheel then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.

Yes, must be good. It’s a pity that another law is passed that supersedes what consenting adults (bar owners, patrons, and staff) should be able to work out on their own. Probably a naïve view. I sure hope that doesn’t make me sound like a Sun reader.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

I still believe that if you can’t see over the steering wheel then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive.

That has got to be so, Rick. I really hope that I do not start to shrink, ever!
Maybe I will have to stop eating mushrooms and take heed to Alice.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.

Yes, must be good. It’s a pity that another law is passed that supersedes what consenting adults (bar owners, patrons, and staff) should be able to work out on their own. Probably a naïve view. I sure hope that doesn’t make me sound like a Sun reader.

Not at all, Rick - you are far too literate. The Sun readers mainly just look at the pictures, precede every sentence with 'basically' and intersperse them with a mixture of 'like' and other four-letter words.

Mike, I wonder if it’s call the Sun because if one looks at it too long they lose the ability to see things properly, or to see things in perspective? It might also mean that it burns the reader’s brains out. Or that it takes 8 minutes for the words to get from the eyes to the brain.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, I wonder if it’s call the Sun because if one looks at it too long they lose the ability to see things properly, or to see things in perspective? It might also mean that it burns the reader’s brains out. Or that it takes 8 minutes for the words to get from the eyes to the brain.

Probably all of these, Rick.
Are there any papers in the USA that are completely national? Or is it too big for that? A question that I have never considered before!
If there are, is there a Sun equivalent?

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Are there any papers in the USA that are completely national?

Mike, I’m afraid I’m not very knowledgeable in this area. I’m somewhat confident that The Wall Street Journal is a national newspaper. But, your question probably pertains more to the tabloids.

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Or is it too big for that?

By size, you must be referring to distribution. I doubt that timeliness is a prerequisite for the type of news that the tabloids carry. After all, I think someone on the East Coast could wait a few days to learn that Big Foot married Big Bird on the West Coast. Although learning that Big Bird was going to have Big Foot’s illegitimate baby could have an impact on bills being voted on in Congress.

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If there are, is there a Sun equivalent?

I think the Inquirer is a U.S. newspaper? There must be more. Don’t forget – we got California as part of this country. And, when all else fails, we have presidential elections every 4 years.

I was thinking about all of them, really, Rick.
We have a whole spectrum from the tabloids at one end and, say, the Times at the other.

Furthermore, there are now more tabloid-type mazagines appearing - the sort of celebrity gossip stuff (celebrities are famous for being famous, but otherwise a lesser species) and rubbish about soap operas.

Editorial



Mike, I don’t think what an artist does outside of his art should be of any concern or curiosity of mine. Whoever they are married to, or shacking up with, or having illegitimate (such a strange word – does that mean they’ll never be able to vote?) children with has any bearing on the performance of their art. The only impact that an actor, or any artist, has in my life is in their art. In fact, since acting, or art as a whole, is a fantasy, I not only see no value in trying to inform myself of the supposedly “real-life” issues of an artist, I also see it as a negative. If the artist needs the events of their personal lives to be made public to allow them to portray a character, then they aren’t actors. And, there’s always the situation where bringing in something from an actor’s personal life will be detrimental to their current role, in that it might take away from the actual art.

Perhaps some people feel a closer bond with someone famous by keeping “current” on the gossip about that person. But, I doubt that one can build a relationship based on that kind of distant and subjective interaction. And, there’s probably the situation where lesser (whatever one wants to use to define lesser) people get enjoyment from seeing the famous have problems.

I also extend these views to politicians. As long as a politician isn’t doing something that impacts his effectiveness to carry out the responsibilities of his office (in essence, his art), then more power to him, or her. At least in the States, it seems that anyone that is what is considered morally qualified to be in office, shouldn’t be considered qualified. This not only applies to elections, but also to confirmation hearings. To find “anyone” that hasn’t done “something” that would offend “someone” is becoming damn near impossible.

I can understand that it’s probably not in a country’s best security interest to have a heroin user/addict as president, or prime minister, or whatever. I can’t understand why anyone gives a hoot if that person smoked a joint 30 years prior, regardless of whether he inhaled or not. And to some extent, someone that hasn’t done some personal experimentation/research may not be qualified to tell the rest of us how to live our lives. As always, there are exceptions and degrees, but to be elected/confirmed for a public office either requires a bunch of lying or someone that hasn’t been exposed to the real world (basically someone dead from the neck down, and perhaps everything above).

Maybe in the future the only acceptable politicians will be actors. Actors are use to the gossip, everyone already knows everything about them, and being a politician is just another form of acting – only when a politician does a great job they don’t get an Academy Award, and when an actor does a bad job, he doesn’t get a library built in his honor.



P.S. Mike, one other advantage of a manual transmission is that they can be pop-started. I know - that’s why they invented batteries.

Hi Rick
I agree with what you say about someone's job generally having no impact on what they do privately, and that there are exceptions.

My view is that those who crave information about such stuff have otherwise very uninteresting lives.

As for some of these celebs, 'art' is stretching it a bit!

Likewise (at least ours) politicians - maybe the only art is to avoid answering any direct question, and fooling some of the people all of the time. Not bad, I suppose, for a job that requires zero qualifications and gets to run the country.

PPS - Quite right about manual transmissions! I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

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Not bad, I suppose, for a job that requires zero qualifications and gets to run the country.

Well, that’s where we beat out you Brits. Over here, the president must be a male (there may even be an exam). Bush (the dad) did introduce jogging as a qualification. Ever since then, Secret Service agents have had to work out someway to look inconspicuous wearing a gun under their sweats. The agents probably miss the good old Reagan days when they could go horseback riding.

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I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

I didn’t know they, or anyone, made such a thing.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

I didn’t know they, or anyone, made such a thing.

Might be the only one of its sort, Rick. May have been a royalty/patent issue.

You just have a 'wand' to change gear - can be operated by your little finger, and performs the entire operation without anything else being done on the part of the driver.

The gear selection, accelerator and clutch are operated by a hydraulic 'brain', power coming from a pump running at 2500psi that also operates brakes, steering and suspension.
As everything is metal-to-metal and runs in hydraulic oil, no wear or maintenance.

Naturally, our Luddite Brits demanded a manual version, so they had to comply to sell the cars here!

Mike, it almost sounds as if it weren’t for Citroens, you’d be a full-time pedestrian. Is there any other car you like - perhaps a distant second?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, it almost sounds as if it weren’t for Citroens, you’d be a full-time pedestrian. Is there any other car you like - perhaps a distant second?

There are various different sorts of "likes" I have, Rick.
I treat all cars as machines that have to do a job, and do it well, just as a toaster (Dualit), dishwasher (Zanussi) or radio (Roberts/Hacker) does.
I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

My current fleet (3) is there for those reasons:
(1) Is for economical long European camping trips and load-carrying.

(2) Is just for pleasure of driving and total comfort on long fast trips.

(3) Is for everyday car that requires little maintenance and does what it says on the tin.

I would probably rate the Peugeot diesels as a second - same make (PSA) actually.

On the down side, no German cars - suspension not suitable for our roads, and service info difficult to obtain.

Everyday car has to be a diesel - more economical and less servicing, fewer obsolescent electronics. Petrol is typically 80p per litre here.

I like many other cars, many of which I have owned, but are not ones that I would want to buy now.

I owned:
Lanchester 10
Humber Hawk
Jaguar Mk VII
5 Austin 7s - 1927-1937

I have enjoyed driving:
Bentley 3 litre
Austin Heavy 12 1927
Citroen XM

I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

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I treat all cars as machines that have to do a job, and do it well, just as a toaster (Dualit), dishwasher (Zanussi) or radio (Roberts/Hacker) does.

I can’t believe you’d miss an opportunity to plug Teasmade.

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I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

You’d never make it as a Yank. We take great pride in showing our neighbors how much debt we can get into.

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I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

Never heard of Trabant and Prinz. Why/where/who the fuss over the Caddys?

I’m not familiar with most of the cars in your “I owned” and “I have enjoyed driving” list. But, then, I may not be a typical American.

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Originally posted by Rick:
I can’t believe you’d miss an opportunity to plug Teasmade.

So ingrained as a normal item like a cup or plate that I forgot it! I only have 5 at the moment, four of them are heading ebay-wise, when I have sorted them. There are many worse than me - just look at this lot! !

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I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

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You’d never make it as a Yank. We take great pride in showing our neighbors how much debt we can get into.

In that case, I only partially make it as a Brit!

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I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

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Why/where/who the fuss over the Caddys?

Just to find out how different they are!

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I’m not familiar with most of the cars in your “I owned” and “I have enjoyed driving” list. But, then, I may not be a typical American.

I'll add some details to the list above, Rick.

Continued.......you may yawn if you want!

I owned:
Lanchester 10
George and Fred Lanchester, two Cornish brothers, made the first production British car at the end of the 19th C.
Mine was 1934, and had the usual preselector gearbox and fluid flywheel, as does the AEC Routemaster (red London bus!). They amalgamated with Daimler, and ceased in the late 1950s.
Humber Hawk
Luxury car from Rootes Brothers in the 50s/60s

Jaguar Mk VII Big 1956 3.4 litre Jag
5 Austin 7s - 1927-1937
The original "real" small car for the masses
Without them, there would not be: Jaguar, BMW, Nissan, Reliant (shame!) That's another story, though.

I have enjoyed driving:
Bentley 3 litre
Austin Heavy 12 1927
Citroen XM

I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus (Luxury brand of Toyota)

Two-stroke Trabant.
East German car which had a 3-cylinder 2-stroke engine, and used petroil (oil mixed with petrol) for lubrication. Many Eastern bloc cars were similar.
They had a plastic body and superb build quality, but bore many urban myth jokes.

NSU Prinz
NSU perfected the first rotary engine developed by Felix Wankel, and still used by Mazda. This car was the timeless RO80.
The Prinz was a small car with a twin-cylinder aircooled engine - some versions were highly tuned. VW bought them out.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
There are many worse than me - just look at this lot! !

It’s obvious by those pictures that teasmade users are intelligent (well, some of them).

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Continued.......

That post provided details about the cars I wasn’t familiar with, but you left out why you would like to drive a big Cadillac from the 60s.

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Any big Cadillac from 60s

I once had a 1968 Cadillac Fleetwod series 62; driving it in city traffic was kind of like piloting an aircraft carrier in a small harbor.

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Those of you in the US probably dont know that this car is marketted over there as the Pontiac GT and exported from Australia

I can't believe nobody has said this yet, but the Holden Monaro is NOT sold here in the US as the Pontiac GT- it's the Pontiac GTO . May not seem like it makes much difference, but it's actually quite huge. I don't know what the historical significance of the Monaro name has in Australian auto timeline, but the GTO badge hearkens back to the Pontiac GTO "Goat" of the musclecar era. Rebadging the Monaro as a GTO was a largely unsuccessful GM sales ploy, since it shares virtually nothing with the original GTO's but the name, it was mostly rejected by the GTO faithful. I'm sure Pontiac could have sold twice as many Monaro's here if they hadn't called them GTO's.
The GT badge, on the other hand, has little significance. Aside from Ford's new megabuck "Ford GT" -a rebirth of the Ford GT40 from back in the day- GT is not a model name, it's more of a trim level (i.e. Ford Mustang GT, Pontiac Grand Am GT, Porsche Carrera GT, Hyundai Tiburon GT, etc...) and it is shared by most car manufacturers. The GTO name is licensed exclusively to Pontiac, and has an old and glorious history with originals in good condition commanding prices double and triple that of the new "GTO"... which I prefer to think of as a Holden Monaro, regardless of what GM says it is here in the US. Hope this doesn't come off sounding like a flame, it isn't my intention, I'm just a car nut.

1 million apologies JB

Fellow car nut, though the Australia Version, I actually couldnt remember what the Monaro was being marketed as over there....so hit google up and it let me down.

Feel free to flame me whenever I am incorrect

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
There are many worse than me - just look at this lot! !

It’s obvious by those pictures that teasmade users are intelligent (well, some of them).

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Continued.......

That post provided details about the cars I wasn’t familiar with, but you left out why you would like to drive a big Cadillac from the 60s.

It is in the original post, Rick, but I missed the quote tag - I've edited it now.

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Originally posted by Dave:

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Any big Cadillac from 60s

I once had a 1968 Cadillac Fleetwod series 62; driving it in city traffic was kind of like piloting an aircraft carrier in a small harbor.

Almost the same as driving a 16ft x 6ft LHD DS through Leeds!

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Originally posted by JBear427:
The GT badge, on the other hand, has little significance. Aside from Ford's new megabuck "Ford GT" -a rebirth of the Ford GT40 from back in the day- GT is not a model name, it's more of a trim level (i.e. Ford Mustang GT, Pontiac Grand Am GT, Porsche Carrera GT, Hyundai Tiburon GT, etc...)

GT stands for gran turismo, or, as the Italians say, grand touring.
I won't give you the Mikeism for this, as this is a family show!

Awwww c'mon Mike.....I REALLY wanna know now!!

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GT stands for gran turismo, or, as the Italians say, grand touring.
I won't give you the Mikeism for this, as this is a family show! Eek

That's generally true, or at least it was once upon a time, as the GT badge tends to find it's way onto the sportier and/or more "loaded" models- although not without exception. I believe it's really only applicable when referring to the GT series of racing, and over the years various manufacturers have ripped it off for their own models whether they are worthy of the Grand Turismo racing circuit or not; and it's logical to do so, because the GT badge definitely sells cars. My point was that no one company has exclusive rights to the GT nameplate, and to say "Pontiac GT" you could be referring to anything from a Fiero to a Grand Prix to a Sunfire; and to say just "GT" could mean anything from a $18K Hyundai to a $140K Ford. "Grand Turismo" does give it some relevence though, at least in theory, so it was unfair of me to say it has NO significance. I just figured at that point I'd probably said more than enough, being my first post and all. I get rankled when some self proclaimed authority on something comes crashing into a forum I'm a veteran of with both guns blazing... so I'm just trying to keep my hypocracy in check. Thanks for the clarification- in retrospect, I probably should have mentioned it.

I never thought I'd be having this discussion on an auction sniping board... I like you folks.

Don't suppose we could get that Mikeism in a pm, eh? I'm pretty curious too...

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Originally posted by Dave:
driving it in city traffic was kind of like piloting an aircraft carrier in a small harbor.

I thought the same thing, Dave, so I was beginning to think Mike had been in the navy.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Just to find out how different they are!

Mike, they’re “kind of like piloting an aircraft carrier in a small harbor.”

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Originally posted by JBear427:
I get rankled when some self proclaimed authority on something comes crashing into a forum I'm a veteran of with both guns blazing

JB,

After reading your posts, I think you can drop “self proclaimed”, or even the “self”. In fact, you’d qualify as an expert witness.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
I won't give you the Mikeism for this, as this is a family show!

Mike,

Maybe I could get it out of you doing Hangman?

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__ __ __ __ __ "piece"


__ __ "of"


__ __ __ __ !

Those who wish to seek further knowledge -

Hangman: Go__ __le__ __ Tw__ __
Let's have an anagram - SMARTEST GLOW

Mike,

Can I assume that the bold letters are in the first word?
SMARTEST GLOW

If either word is Brit slang, I’m dead.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Originally posted by JBear427:
I get rankled when some self proclaimed authority on something comes crashing into a forum I'm a veteran of with both guns blazing

JB,

After reading your posts, I think you can drop “self proclaimed”, or even the “self”. In fact, you’d qualify as an expert witness.

Why thank you!

*suddenly discovers hat is too small for head*

Uh-oh.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike,

Can I assume that the bold letters are in the first word?
SMARTEST GLOW

If either word is Brit slang, I’m dead.

By jove, Rick, I think you have got it!

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Originally posted by JBear427:
Why thank you!

*suddenly discovers hat is too small for head*

Uh-oh.

Would you like some help plucking those tickets off yourself??

You will be amazed (and possibly very scared) at what topics are discussed on this board

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
By jove, Rick, I think you have got it!

Afraid not, Mike. Haven’t put the first word together. Is it a slang word that a Yank wouldn’t normally know about, or one of those Mikeisms that isn’t usually found in the public domain? If it’s either of those, I’m going to have to throw in the towel. The second word was easy, as I pride myself on knowing non family show words. But, if the first word isn’t X-rated, and no one else comes up with it, I think we’ve been evasive enough to short-circuit any censors.

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Originally posted by JBear427:
*suddenly discovers hat is too small for head*

JBear,

Perhaps it’s time to get a new hatter, or a new drycleaner. I suppose there’s the possibility that the hat was left in the sun. Of course, you may not have adequately tipped the hatcheck person. It might also be time to visit a barber.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Perhaps it’s time to get a new hatter, or a new drycleaner.

C'mon Rick, you're slipping. Its a Milliner.

Gormless??

wtf is a Gorm? and is it bad to be without one?

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Originally posted by Smart:
Gormless Twat

Thanks, Smart.

Good Anagram, Mike. Did you use software, or was that an original?

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Originally posted by Bartelby:
C'mon Rick, you're slipping. Its a Milliner.

I couldn’t be certain of JBear’s gender. (Is it safe to use a Razzy?)

I am not certain either, but when I think of *hatter* I think of the mad one, so Milliner was a nicer option for me.

When in doubt, ALWAYS use the razzy

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You will be amazed (and possibly very scared) at what topics are discussed on this board

Including adhesive bras?

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wtf is a Gorm? and is it bad to be without one?

Google shows that "Gorm" was an ancient Viking king of some sort. As to the second part of your question; that is a decision that only you can make.

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Originally posted by Dave:

Including adhesive bras?

One of the many scary topics that have bounced around here

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Originally posted by Dave:

Google shows that "Gorm" was an ancient Viking king of some sort. As to the second part of your question; that is a decision that only you can make.

Hmmm...do I need a Viking King?

HELL YEAH!! What girl doesnt

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Originally posted by Bartelby:
Gormless??

wtf is a Gorm? and is it bad to be without one?

Lexie,

You’re much too young to worry about taking gormone shots.

Rick
I use this one.

Lexie
It seems to be a Brit saying, but Rick understood it, so may have travelled to USA as well.
Flippin' Clipboard!

Mike,

I’m not the one that got it – Smart did, and I think Smart is in your general area. I’ve never heard of “gorm”. I AM somewhat curious why Lexie feels that every girl needs a Viking King?

P.S. I suspect this wasn’t intentional, but your second link brings up the same page as your first link. I did check the “Hall of Fame” and the “FAQ” in that second link, but there wasn’t any mention of gorm, or Viking King.

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Originally posted by Dave:
Including adhesive bras?

“Adhesive bras” has 16,673 views – I don’t think snipers get out very often.

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Originally posted by Rick:
I AM somewhat curious why Lexie feels that every girl needs a Viking King?

Ummm...do you really need me to spell out what every girl would do with a Big Blonde Viking??

Your spell checker or mine?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike,

I’m not the one that got it – Smart did, and I think Smart is in your general area.

Ah - didn't know that - nothing on profile.
Where are you, Smart? At a guess, London/Home Counties?

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P.S. I suspect this wasn’t intentional, but your second link brings up the same page as your first link. I did check the “Hall of Fame” and the “FAQ” in that second link, but there wasn’t any mention of gorm, or Viking King.

Thanks, Rick - now edited.

[Just to summarize for those viewers that tuned in late.]

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
GT stands for gran turismo, or, as the Italians say, grand touring.
I won't give you the Mikeism for this, as this is a family show!

Reviewing the results of the hangman game, the anagram game, some Google searches providing definitions for a double Brit slang phrase, and Lexie’s comments about things she’d like to do with a Viking, the Mikeism was Gormless Twat which means a foolish, inept person. I assume that Mikeism pertains to someone that uses the word “gran turismo”. That’s not a question, Mike. If you agree, just nod your head up and down.


P.S. Would Gormless Twit be a synonym, or maybe a redundancy? Mike, GIMLETS WORST
would be the anagram, incase you're interested.

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Ummm...do you really need me to spell out what every girl would do with a Big Blonde Viking??

Discuss & compare hair care secrets??

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Originally posted by Rick:
[Just to summarize for those viewers that tuned in late.]

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
GT stands for gran turismo, or, as the Italians say, grand touring.
I won't give you the Mikeism for this, as this is a family show!

Reviewing the results of the hangman game, the anagram game, some Google searches providing definitions for a double Brit slang phrase, and Lexie’s comments about things she’d like to do with a Viking, the Mikeism was Gormless Twat which means a foolish, inept person. I assume that Mikeism pertains to someone that uses the word “gran turismo”. That’s not a question, Mike. If you agree, just nod your head up and down.


P.S. Would Gormless Twit be a synonym, or maybe a redundancy? Mike, GIMLETS WORST
would be the anagram, incase you're interested.

I tried nodding there, Rick. but my head doesn't move!

Mike, lets see if this helps (follow the arrows without moving your eyes):­
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Crash course:
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P.S. I’ll sure look like even more of an ass if you are suffering from partial paralysis.

Its arse when you are speaking to a Pom or an Aussie Rick

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Jab said:

Discuss & compare hair care secrets?? Razz

Ummmm

YES!! Lets go with that answer

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Originally posted by Bartelby:
Its arse when you are speaking to a Pom or an Aussie Rick

That's right - an ass, here, is either a donkey or an idiotic person - "silly ass". Is that that the same in Oz, Lexie?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, lets see if this helps (follow the arrows without moving your eyes):­
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Crash course:
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P.S. I’ll sure look like even more of an ass if you are suffering from partial paralysis.

Hi Rick

1. I'll bet you used to play space invaders!
   
2. It did crash - when I imported it into .NET and ran it!
   
3. Nope - all extremities are fully functional (too much information, maybe?)
   

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1. I'll bet you used to play space invaders!

Best to make it a very small bet.

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3. Nope - all extremities are fully functional (too much information, maybe?)

All like in A L L ! Is that with or without the assistance of pharmaceuticals, Mike? When it comes to loosing losing extremities' functionality, I’d much rather the hair go then the other thing. Even losing the hair around the other thing would be preferred.

While we're on the subject, I did use to play with a erector set.

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Originally posted by Rick:
...When it comes to loosing losing extremities' functionality, I’d much rather the hair go then the other thing. Even losing the hair around the other thing would be preferred.

Agreed. "Hair around the other thing" = far more trouble than it's worth. Thank God for beard trimmers...

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Thank God for beard trimmers...

Don’t forget waxing, JBear. Gals must make better spies, because of their training to withstand torture. But then the threat of a bad haircut would probably cause them to break.

I recently came up with a new idea. Seems the hair on my head doesn’t have a strong survival instinct, but at the same time I’ve done everything next to napalm to stop nose-hair growth (I’m tempted to turn them into dreadlocks). My idea is to transplant my nose-hair to my head. Not only the obvious benefit of having a healthy and lifelong head of hair, but I can switch to picking my scalp while I’m driving.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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[QUOTE]3. Nope - all extremities are fully functional (too much information, maybe?)

All like in A L L ! Is that with or without the assistance of pharmaceuticals, Mike? When it comes to loosing losing extremities' functionality, I’d much rather the hair go then the other thing. Even losing the hair around the other thing would be preferred.

I do not know anyone that actually uses pharmaceuticals or even things like bike pumps for this purpose, despite the spammers bombarding my inbox every day (worth a separate thread on this one!)

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While we're on the subject, I did use to play with a erector set.

That's what you called it, then, Rick!

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I do not know anyone that actually uses pharmaceuticals or even things like bike pumps for this purpose

How do you know, Mike, unless you are a lot closer to your mates than I am to mine, and I don’t mean in a physical way? Your pub discussions must be very liberating. I’m not sure I’d be willing to expose my minimum side, or even get in touch with it, in front of a bunch of guys.

“Bike pumps”? – I’m impressed (I mean that). One never knows when they are going to have a flat.

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That's what you called it, then, Rick!

It was very BIG here in the States. The difficult thing was having a set.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Your pub discussions must be very liberating. I’m not sure I’d be willing to expose my minimum side, or even get in touch with it, in front of a bunch of guys.

Our pub discussions - both M & F - reach parts that cannot be otherwise reached, while we put the world to rights!

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Our pub discussions - both M & F - reach parts that cannot be otherwise reached

Kinky. "Parts" - interesting choice of words instead of something like "Topics".

Mike, I have a follow-up comment. Assuming you're pubbing with older, married couples, it’s very possible that the wives don't know their husbands have a limp (and I don’t mean one that impacts walking). Now, should one of your male buddies bring his mistress, it would be redundant to ask her.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Our pub discussions - both M & F - reach parts that cannot be otherwise reached

Kinky. "Parts" - interesting choice of words instead of something like "Topics".

Intended, Rick - I was also paraphrasing a lager advert - Carlsberg, IIRC - "Reaches parts that other lagers do not reach!"

Follow-up:
Could be, but we are going to our usual one tonight, and our friends range from 23-70, married and single.
I have compiled a table-top treasure hunt to stop anyone discussing their parts!

Pub is the one where the the Luddites used to hold their meetings for planning destroying factories.

Just across the road is the house where Patrick Bronte lived with his three daughters, later to become famous.

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and our friends range from 23-70, married and single.

Mike - Next to impossible to EVER be limp at 23. Sounds like a very diverse group. Are the younger members second-generation draftees of the original founders, or did they enlist for the camaraderie? More importantly, does everyone, regardless of age or gender, participate somewhat equally in the conversations/debates versus a few pontificating old duffers monopolizing the discussions?

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I have compiled a table-top treasure hunt to stop anyone discussing their parts!

I’ll bite – what makes up a table-top treasure hunt, and does it require a large table?

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Just across the road is the house where Patrick Bronte lived with his three daughters, later to become famous

Well, now I know who Patrick was. Is this the place? http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/sense_of_place/haworth_bronte_museum.shtml

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Originally posted by Rick:

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and our friends range from 23-70, married and single.

Mike - Next to impossible to EVER be limp at 23. Sounds like a very diverse group. Are the younger members second-generation draftees of the original founders, or did they enlist for the camaraderie? More importantly, does everyone, regardless of age or gender, participate somewhat equally in the conversations/debates versus a few pontificating old duffers monopolizing the discussions?

Usually the former, Rick

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I have compiled a table-top treasure hunt to stop anyone discussing their parts!

I’ll bite – what makes up a table-top treasure hunt, and does it require a large table?

Lots of small ones! We print a part of a map, then a list of (say 20) clues for places, ahd whoever gets the maximum right gets a prize. In the event of a tie-breaker, it is whoever is first.
As in:


Note - we do not give them this version of the map!
Alley Cats’ Table-top Treasure Hunt – 20 clues – Good Luck!

Not low, not big, not metric, but a start!
We then go south, but who paid Peter to north?
Passing through what is definitely not a summer meadow, and a bit further
a curious snot minder room is encountered as we continue.
Looking to our right, is this the bloke next door from Newcastle?
Onwards, a wood in a small mountain brings us to
the fluffy bit on left and right, or maybe front and back.
Into a small town, a collie with a sledgehammer?
Still on the same road, French ducks were said to be interred.
Repel sight badly here, followed by an
eternal Red Indian church.
Slightly off the road, we go to see a prizewinning bloom from small Bradford town.
And then there is what you make a boudoir cabinet from?
Through here, ‘twas worn badly.
Looking across to the right, is this someone with a grudge against beer?
Into the town, is part of it from East?
Better than a new Volvo, I suppose!
Then, reportedly, it is what we are on!
Plinth portions upset on left, and finally, as we arrive,
a sort of thin teacher honours this small town.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Just across the road is the house where Patrick Bronte lived with his three daughters, later to become famous

Well, now I know who Patrick was. Is this the place? http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/sense_of_place/haworth_bronte_museum.shtml

No, this is where he lived later, Rick. First, he was at Clough House, Hightown, Liversedge where he was a priest at Hartshead church (highest in Yorkshire).
Clough House is a stone cottage, about half a mile from us.

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Note - we do not give them this version of the map!

Even with the map, I still wouldn’t even qualify to be a contestant.

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Alley Cats’ Table-top Treasure Hunt

Should I assume you call yourselves the “Alley Cats”?

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Better than a new Volvo, I suppose!

That almost sounds as if you like Volvos. Must be a typo.[/QUOTE]

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Liversedge

I understand that’s right next to Kidneystone.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Note - we do not give them this version of the map!

Even with the map, I still wouldn’t even qualify to be a contestant.

Oh dear!

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Alley Cats’ Table-top Treasure Hunt

Should I assume you call yourselves the “Alley Cats”?

Indeed we do, Rick. There is a reason, but it would take too long, and I need to do PC housekeeping now it is Friday!

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Better than a new Volvo, I suppose!

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That almost sounds as if you like Volvos. Must be a typo.

I am sure Volvos are excellent cars - it is just the Volvo drivers that sometimes give me (and others) problems!

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[QUOTE]Liversedge

I understand that’s right next to Kidneystone.

It can be. if you say it with a hard "s". We occasionally get "liver sausage" as well!

Name originated from Sir Robert de Liversedge.
Colloquialism is "Cleckmondsedge" - a corruption of the nearby towns of Cleckheaton, Heckmondwike and the area of Liversedge!

Sounds like the Alley Cats use pubing as an excuse to converse/debate, or use conversing/debating as an excuse to pub, or use each other as excuses. Then there’s always the possibility that none of you need any excuse to do either.

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It can be. if you say it with a hard "s". We occasionally get "liver sausage" as well!

And here I was sure you were going to use the standard excuse that liver was being used as an inhabitant instead of an organ.

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Colloquialism is "Cleckmondsedge" - a corruption of the nearby towns of Cleckheaton, Heckmondwike and the area of Liversedge!

Is there much difference between a sedge, a heaton, and a wike? Sounds like a mond might just increase property values.

Another smart-ass (smart-arse doesn’t sound right) Rick post!

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Colloquialism is "Cleckmondsedge" - a corruption of the nearby towns of Cleckheaton, Heckmondwike and the area of Liversedge!

Is there much difference between a sedge, a heaton, and a wike? Sounds like a mond might just increase property values.

Dunno, Rick - values are steadily increasing anyway.

All these suffixes are old Viking words, as are most of the place names are in Yorkshire.

Heckmondwike was "Hegmond's Wike" Wike or Wyke is a farm. There is a place called "Wyke" a mile or so from here, and many Heatons. Derivation of "Liversedge" is not definitely known, AFAIK.

See you Monday - off to London for weekend, if I can get out of the driveway (a bit of snow here!)

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See you Monday - off to London for weekend, if I can get out of the driveway (a bit of snow here!)

Enjoy!

Hi Dave - I’m assuming that’s a picture showing your local weather? Either that, or it’s a very unusual section of London. It sure doesn't look like Heckmondwike or Liversedge, but I can't swear it's not Cleckheaton!

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
(a bit of snow here!)

Mike – can you define “a bit”.

Hi Rick
There was an inch when we set off on Saturday morning, but most of it has thawed out.



We would have to go a bit further North for Dave's palm trees, to the West coast of Scotland, or Southern Ireland.

Looks like bird-bath heaven – at the time of the photo perhaps only ice-skating.

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Either that, or it’s a very unusual section of London.

No, not London; it is a Queen Palm in my front yard.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Looks like bird-bath heaven – at the time of the photo perhaps only ice-skating.

Our resident blackbird has tried it when he could not have his daily splash and empty most of the water out!
All the snow has gone now.