How about a loan???

Lexie,

Are you purposing joint custody, or would I only have one weekend a month, supervised visitations with this baby?

Why is it going for so much??

Try this one:

it's cheaper!

And this one is still available having failed to make its reserve of £25K

Can't bring it up, Camera

Rick - Supervised visitations only!! In fact, they would be passenger seat visitations only.

Mrs M - Its the last ever one being produced. Monaro (like the old GT over there) is something of an Aussie legend and the newer models are $60k+, this one is just super special.

Camera - LOL with our currency conversion, the reserve is $60k anyways...so I could get a new one for that!!

Lexie - Happy Birthday Robbie!!!!

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Lexie - Happy Birthday Robbie!!!!

A few more hours to go for us Yanks.

Maximillion? Parents with big expectations.

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In fact, they would be passenger seat visitations only.

Seats with Rick restraints?

OIC, Lexie..Wow! One would really have to want it

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Originally posted by Camera:
Try this one:

it's cheaper!

And this one is still available having failed to make its reserve of £25K

Sheesh! Twenty grand for a secondhand Vauxhall! Short of a couple of doors, as well. Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.
Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

There you go Mike..you could even run it through the car wash for her.

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Originally posted by Bartelby:
(luckily I have been able to drive one for a few months whilst it was at work)....

Lexie, looks like the car hauls ass, or incase you get a partner (me) to help finance this venture, asses. How was the few-month-test-drive? Was it as good for you as it was for the car? Did you get a lot more attention from guys?

I think I’d be pissing my pants if I placed an AU $187,000 (US $138,000) bid.

Too bad so many people are putting in bogus bids on a charity auction.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.

Sorry, Mike, but in this part of the planet whoopee cushions are something that sound like farts when one sits on them:
http://events.clowningaround.com/images/Carnival%20Stor...oopee%20cushion.jpeg
Obviously, another indication of my Yankee isolationism, unless in England cars come equipped with fart-sounding seats.

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Originally posted by Mike from West

Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

Will mine have whoopee cushions in it????

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Originally posted by Rick:

I think I’d be pissing my pants if I placed an AU $187,000 (US $138,000) bid.

I would not have any pants left, Rick!

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Not to mention the ABS, whoopee cushions and other hindrances.

Sorry, Mike, but in this part of the planet whoopee cushions are something that sound like farts when one sits on them:
Obviously, another indication of my Yankee isolationism, unless in England cars come equipped with fart-sounding seats.

They are the same here as well, Rick. Sold in joke shops

What I was talking about was a Mikeism - air-bags - I call them whoopee cushions, although if you got injured by one, there would not be much to celebrate.

Sadly, my everyday car has one - nowt I can do about it, as if I removed it the insurance would be invalidated. Thankfully it is sans ABS, or as the tautological marketroids would have it, ABS brakes.

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Originally posted by Bartelby:

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Originally posted by Mike from West

Suppose I would sell it to Lexie and spend the proceeds on ten other cars........

Will mine have whoopee cushions in it????

Probably dozens of the buggers, Lexie - see above

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Originally posted by Mrs.M.:
There you go Mike..you could even run it through the car wash for her.

At this price, Lexie may object to me covering it in lots of tiny scratches, Shirl.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Sadly, my everyday car has one - nowt I can do about it, as if I removed it the insurance would be invalidated.

Mike, have you had a bad experience with air-bags (aka whoopee cushions), or do you have a general distrust of something waiting to blow up in your face?

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Thankfully it is sans ABS

What do you have against ABS?

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
tautological

Great word!

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, have you had a bad experience with air-bags (aka whoopee cushions), or do you have a general distrust of something waiting to blow up in your face?

The latter, Rick! I cannot see what use they are, as if you are using your safety belts (a legal requirement here) air-bags are not needed.

Maybe the cynic in me says that one of the design team meetings went something like:

DT wallah 1 "What can we persuade the public tha they must have on our cars - we have exhausted most of the safety stuff now?"

DT wallah 2 "It will have to be something that is a legal requirement, as well"

DT wallah 3 "Also, it must be unavailable in the aftermarket, and expensive"

DT director "Hmmm....we've already done catastrophic converters - how about air bags?"

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What do you have against ABS?

A few things - generally, like other gizmos, they lull the user into a false security so they are not as attentive as they should be.

They reduce braking power.

Any extra complications in a braking system with potential failures are a bad thing

The wheel sensors are in prone to failure and are unnecessarily expensive (a coil with a bit of cable on it)

Primary safety - prevention, not cure - would save more lives.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
A few things - generally, like other gizmos, they lull the user into a false security so they are not as attentive as they should be.

Mike, I have a hard time blaming gizmos for drivers’ lack of attentiveness. I doubt drivers are less attentive today then they were before some of today’s gizmos. I know there’s some research(es) floating around that says ABS and 4/all-wheel drive causes drivers to be cockier, but I’m not sure how one can measure cockiness (Lexie, I know you’re tempted by that last statement). And, things like ABS probably helps someone that panics. One gizmo that definitely gives drivers a false security are brakes. I believe that if breaks were removed from all cars, that people would drive a heck of a lot slower (after the initial carnage) and be a lot more cautious, and perhaps stop driving entirely.

Traffic lights are another one of those gizmos, at least here in the round-about-less States. A better safety solution would be stop signs at all intercessions, thus it would take two inattentive drivers to cause an accident, versus only one being necessary with traffic lights.

And talk about faith in ones fellow-mankind, those little painted lines between oncoming traffic turn driving into a cult experience. On a road with a 55 MPH speed limit, the head-on impact speed of two cars would be 110 MPH, and that’s assuming both drivers aren’t doing 70. Compare to airbags, those little painted lines don’t do a lot for my safety concerns, although an impact at those speeds, I doubt the airbags would make any difference.

In fact, one could make the argument that seat belts “lull the user into a false security”. And they may add “extra complications” in the passenger removal system.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Primary safety - prevention, not cure - would save more lives.

RIGHT ON, and by prevention I understand you to mean awareness. I’m of the opinion that all (or damn near all) traffic accidents are avoidable (including rear-end collisions) if at least one of the drivers doesn’t have the misguided belief that other drivers will do what they are suppose to do, or should do.

Rick
I can understand what you are saying - some things are probably different in different countries, anyhow.

The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map. All of these are of course illegal.

One result of more powerful brakes is that tailgating is rife - no-one looks far enough in front to see what is happening, so we get these multiple pile-ups on motorways.
They have no concept of stopping distances at all.
Some of the HGVs are the worst offenders and can wreak much more havoc and kill more people.

Difficult to police, whereas speeding is a no-brainer and gets revenue!

The other growing problem is aggressiveness - no-one with a short fuse should be allowed to drive a vehicle at all, IMHO. The worst ones are in the 17-25 range, who throw their toys out of the pram at any opportunity.


Jumping red traffic lights is on the increase here as well - even buses do it! Some intersections have cameras on them, but people still get killed or injured this way.

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The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map. <snip> ...tailgating is rife - no-one looks far enough in front to see what is happening, so we get these multiple pile-ups on motorways.
They have no concept of stopping distances at all.

One of my pet-peeves -- I like to leave space between me and the car in front so I have more reaction time, because I'm, well..you know...eating lunch and steering with my knees! Anyway, inevitably someone will pass me and slide into the space in front of me. So then I need to back off again to create my buffer zone, and somebody else pulls in the space in front of me! It seems like I'm backing up all the time -- it's a wonder I ever get to where I'm going! Where was I going anyway???

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The growing trend here is definitely inattentiveness; many drivers are two busy swapping CDs, making mobile calls, eating their breakfast, reading a paper or map.

My hat is off to anyone that can eat a meal using a knife and fork while driving – chopsticks are a close second. I’m a big advocate of driving and putting on makeup, as long as she, or he, is in front of me. It does pucker my sphincter when I see someone in my rearview mirror doing it, especially eyeliner.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
All of these are of course illegal.

Mike, I’m uncertain whether all that’s illegal here in the States. I think it’s called hands-free driving.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
One result of more powerful brakes is that tailgating is rife

I’ve never seen a tailgater that I couldn’t get a wave from – well, a one finger wave.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The other growing problem is aggressiveness - no-one with a short fuse should be allowed to drive a vehicle at all, IMHO.

I’d like to see cars equipped with a horn-govern. Each car is allocated so many honks each year, say 5, and once those are used up one would have to pay a honk-tax to get more honks. It could be included with the annual licensing fee and part of the emissions test; after all, honking is a form of emissions.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
The worst ones are in the 17-25 range, who throw their toys out of the pram at any opportunity.

It’s hormonal. That’s the best age to draft them. There’s never a conscription around when you need it.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Some intersections have cameras on them, but people still get killed or injured this way.

I got my first camera/radar speeding ticket a couple of weeks ago. I was more fascinated with the technology then bummed out about the fine. I think the city is missing an extra source of revenue by not selling additional copies of the photos – I never get to see myself driving my car.

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
eating lunch and steering with my knees!

Is that with a manual transmission. Ever tried dipping Chicken McNuggets in a sauce while driving?

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
it's a wonder I ever get to where I'm going!

At least when you arrive, you’re not hungry. But, it does help to have a Dust Buster to remove the lap crumbs.



Good thing cars don’t come equipped with driver DVD players (I hope that’s true), although GPS is close. Haven’t seen a hairdryer being used in a car - might be a something car manufactures could install instead of a headrest for the driver. Headrest doesn’t sound like something a driver should have – or pillows.

Perhaps cup holders and ashtrays should be eliminated.

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Originally posted by Rick:
I got my first camera/radar speeding ticket a couple of weeks ago. I was more fascinated with the technology then bummed out about the fine. I think the city is missing an extra source of revenue by not selling additional copies of the photos – I never get to see myself driving my car.

Here, Rick, you can actually request a copy of the two pictures!

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Originally posted by Jabbergah:
eating lunch and steering with my knees!

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Is that with a manual transmission.

Can't think there are many of these in USA?
Or am I wrong there?

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Ever tried dipping Chicken McNuggets in a sauce while driving?

No, nor anywhere else!!

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Perhaps cup holders and ashtrays should be eliminated.

Cup holders are the current fad of the marketroids! I believe that ashtrays are disappearing from cars, not that it matters - the puff 'n' cough brigade usually chuck the dimps out of the window, possibly aiming at a cyclist or bit of tinder-dry forest or moorland for added effect.
Those that do use them dump the contents on the nearest supermarket car park.

Cigar lighters are useful to act as handy sockets for 12v supplies for things.

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Here, Rick, you can actually request a copy of the two pictures!

Outstanding. I’ll be able to add the picture to this year’s Christmas cards.

CAUTION TO ADULTERERS: Either don’t speed or take separate cars.

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Can't think there are many of these in USA?
Or am I wrong there?

Which one, Mike? Knee steering or manual transmissions?

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I believe that ashtrays are disappearing from cars, not that it matters -

I wonder why they still have them in airplanes. Probably for the mint wrappers.

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Cigar lighters are useful to act as handy sockets for 12v supplies for things.

Cigar lighters in British cars? Is that a carry over from Churchill?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Which one, Mike? Knee steering or manual transmissions?

Manual trannies, Rick. Cannot understand why all cars are not auto, now, or at least semi-auto, as the DS was in 1955.

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Cigar lighters in British cars? Is that a carry over from Churchill?

For some reason, they have always been so called. IIRC they appeared first in the early 1930s - I had a 1934 Lanchester with one. I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?
They are just a handy power supply, now.
FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England. Republic of Ireland have already done it.

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Cannot understand why all cars are not auto, now, or at least semi-auto, as the DS was in 1955.

Manual transmission advantages:

1. Improved gas mileage
2. Cheaper to buy
3. Faster
4. Sports car aura
5. Alternative to nose picking
6. One less automatic gizmo to fail
7. Rev engine at stops
8. Rev engine when downshifting
9. More acceptable to wear racing gloves
10. Gives left foot something to do

I’ve numbered them, Mike, to make it easier for you to point out my mistakes.



What are your views on the following:

1. Cruise control
2. Parking assist
3. Minimum/maximum age for males to have cars
4. Minimum/maximum age for females to have cars

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I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?

Yes.

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FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England.

Is that good news or bad?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Manual transmission advantages:

1. Improved gas mileage
2. Cheaper to buy
3. Faster
4. Sports car aura
5. Alternative to nose picking
6. One less automatic gizmo to fail
7. Rev engine at stops
8. Rev engine when downshifting
9. More acceptable to wear racing gloves
10. Gives left foot something to do

I’ve numbered them, Mike, to make it easier for you to point out my mistakes.

'Ere goes, Rick:
1 - true in earlier autos where the engine was never connected directly to the transmission - most do now, so the continual slip does not happen; the driver of a manual can waste petrol more easily!
2 - mainly true, but only for new.
3 - on our overcrowded islands, not a problem.
4 - probably!
5 - I see many who manage both!
6 - true, for the later ones with electronics in them. Earlier autos are purely mechanical, and more reliable than a manual trans plus clutch.
7 - will negate any better fusl consumption.
8 - autos do this anyhow - doing it on a manual gives a smoother change and causes less work for the synchros.
9 - dunno - cannot wear gloves when I drive.
10 - if you are really agile, you could do (5)

And the rest:
(a) more useful in uncrowded roads, maybe, but again, this is something that is one less item for the driver to concentrate on. They are notoriously unreliable as well.
(b) no problem, if people need it. In the current blob-shaped cars, they probably do.
(c)and d) - minimum - the 17 one we have now, but I think there should be a licence with some restrictions until, say, 21, as this is the age when they tend to write themselves off, and others as well.
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

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What are your views on the following:

1. Cruise control
2. Parking assist
3. Minimum/maximum age for males to have cars
4. Minimum/maximum age for females to have cars

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I presume you call them 'cigaret(te) lighters'?

Yes.

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FYI, the gubmint have just said they are going to ban smoking in pubs in England.

Is that good news or bad?

Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.
There were a few interviews on TV on the subject; the few that were against it were predictably of what I call the Sun reader ilk, "I fink basicly that, like, I should be able to smoke, like, know wot ah mean?"

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
'Ere goes, Rick:

Wow. I did better than I thought I would. I got one “mainly true”.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
10 - if you are really agile, you could do (5)

That either means picking one’s left toes instead of one’s nose, or it could mean picking your nose with your toes.



Another device that’s waiting for the right market that could be engaged with cruise control – an APD (Automatic Pedicure Device). All right, I know how much you hate having too many automated things in the car, so perhaps it could be a MPD. I would also propose that the driver side vanity mirror be disabled when cruise control is enabled.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

I still believe that if you can’t see over the steering wheel then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.

Yes, must be good. It’s a pity that another law is passed that supersedes what consenting adults (bar owners, patrons, and staff) should be able to work out on their own. Probably a naïve view. I sure hope that doesn’t make me sound like a Sun reader.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Maximum - cannot be determined by age - when it is no longer safe to drive a car, but who can know this impartially?

I still believe that if you can’t see over the steering wheel then you shouldn’t be allowed to drive.

That has got to be so, Rick. I really hope that I do not start to shrink, ever!
Maybe I will have to stop eating mushrooms and take heed to Alice.

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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Must be good - bar staff and customers no longer go home smelling like a bonfire, and live longer.

Yes, must be good. It’s a pity that another law is passed that supersedes what consenting adults (bar owners, patrons, and staff) should be able to work out on their own. Probably a naïve view. I sure hope that doesn’t make me sound like a Sun reader.

Not at all, Rick - you are far too literate. The Sun readers mainly just look at the pictures, precede every sentence with 'basically' and intersperse them with a mixture of 'like' and other four-letter words.

Mike, I wonder if it’s call the Sun because if one looks at it too long they lose the ability to see things properly, or to see things in perspective? It might also mean that it burns the reader’s brains out. Or that it takes 8 minutes for the words to get from the eyes to the brain.

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, I wonder if it’s call the Sun because if one looks at it too long they lose the ability to see things properly, or to see things in perspective? It might also mean that it burns the reader’s brains out. Or that it takes 8 minutes for the words to get from the eyes to the brain.

Probably all of these, Rick.
Are there any papers in the USA that are completely national? Or is it too big for that? A question that I have never considered before!
If there are, is there a Sun equivalent?

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Are there any papers in the USA that are completely national?

Mike, I’m afraid I’m not very knowledgeable in this area. I’m somewhat confident that The Wall Street Journal is a national newspaper. But, your question probably pertains more to the tabloids.

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Or is it too big for that?

By size, you must be referring to distribution. I doubt that timeliness is a prerequisite for the type of news that the tabloids carry. After all, I think someone on the East Coast could wait a few days to learn that Big Foot married Big Bird on the West Coast. Although learning that Big Bird was going to have Big Foot’s illegitimate baby could have an impact on bills being voted on in Congress.

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If there are, is there a Sun equivalent?

I think the Inquirer is a U.S. newspaper? There must be more. Don’t forget – we got California as part of this country. And, when all else fails, we have presidential elections every 4 years.

I was thinking about all of them, really, Rick.
We have a whole spectrum from the tabloids at one end and, say, the Times at the other.

Furthermore, there are now more tabloid-type mazagines appearing - the sort of celebrity gossip stuff (celebrities are famous for being famous, but otherwise a lesser species) and rubbish about soap operas.

Editorial



Mike, I don’t think what an artist does outside of his art should be of any concern or curiosity of mine. Whoever they are married to, or shacking up with, or having illegitimate (such a strange word – does that mean they’ll never be able to vote?) children with has any bearing on the performance of their art. The only impact that an actor, or any artist, has in my life is in their art. In fact, since acting, or art as a whole, is a fantasy, I not only see no value in trying to inform myself of the supposedly “real-life” issues of an artist, I also see it as a negative. If the artist needs the events of their personal lives to be made public to allow them to portray a character, then they aren’t actors. And, there’s always the situation where bringing in something from an actor’s personal life will be detrimental to their current role, in that it might take away from the actual art.

Perhaps some people feel a closer bond with someone famous by keeping “current” on the gossip about that person. But, I doubt that one can build a relationship based on that kind of distant and subjective interaction. And, there’s probably the situation where lesser (whatever one wants to use to define lesser) people get enjoyment from seeing the famous have problems.

I also extend these views to politicians. As long as a politician isn’t doing something that impacts his effectiveness to carry out the responsibilities of his office (in essence, his art), then more power to him, or her. At least in the States, it seems that anyone that is what is considered morally qualified to be in office, shouldn’t be considered qualified. This not only applies to elections, but also to confirmation hearings. To find “anyone” that hasn’t done “something” that would offend “someone” is becoming damn near impossible.

I can understand that it’s probably not in a country’s best security interest to have a heroin user/addict as president, or prime minister, or whatever. I can’t understand why anyone gives a hoot if that person smoked a joint 30 years prior, regardless of whether he inhaled or not. And to some extent, someone that hasn’t done some personal experimentation/research may not be qualified to tell the rest of us how to live our lives. As always, there are exceptions and degrees, but to be elected/confirmed for a public office either requires a bunch of lying or someone that hasn’t been exposed to the real world (basically someone dead from the neck down, and perhaps everything above).

Maybe in the future the only acceptable politicians will be actors. Actors are use to the gossip, everyone already knows everything about them, and being a politician is just another form of acting – only when a politician does a great job they don’t get an Academy Award, and when an actor does a bad job, he doesn’t get a library built in his honor.



P.S. Mike, one other advantage of a manual transmission is that they can be pop-started. I know - that’s why they invented batteries.

Hi Rick
I agree with what you say about someone's job generally having no impact on what they do privately, and that there are exceptions.

My view is that those who crave information about such stuff have otherwise very uninteresting lives.

As for some of these celebs, 'art' is stretching it a bit!

Likewise (at least ours) politicians - maybe the only art is to avoid answering any direct question, and fooling some of the people all of the time. Not bad, I suppose, for a job that requires zero qualifications and gets to run the country.

PPS - Quite right about manual transmissions! I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

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Not bad, I suppose, for a job that requires zero qualifications and gets to run the country.

Well, that’s where we beat out you Brits. Over here, the president must be a male (there may even be an exam). Bush (the dad) did introduce jogging as a qualification. Ever since then, Secret Service agents have had to work out someway to look inconspicuous wearing a gun under their sweats. The agents probably miss the good old Reagan days when they could go horseback riding.

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I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

I didn’t know they, or anyone, made such a thing.

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Originally posted by Rick:

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I think my DS semi-auto (which has a perfectly normal gearbox and clutch) is the best of both worlds.

I didn’t know they, or anyone, made such a thing.

Might be the only one of its sort, Rick. May have been a royalty/patent issue.

You just have a 'wand' to change gear - can be operated by your little finger, and performs the entire operation without anything else being done on the part of the driver.

The gear selection, accelerator and clutch are operated by a hydraulic 'brain', power coming from a pump running at 2500psi that also operates brakes, steering and suspension.
As everything is metal-to-metal and runs in hydraulic oil, no wear or maintenance.

Naturally, our Luddite Brits demanded a manual version, so they had to comply to sell the cars here!

Mike, it almost sounds as if it weren’t for Citroens, you’d be a full-time pedestrian. Is there any other car you like - perhaps a distant second?

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Originally posted by Rick:
Mike, it almost sounds as if it weren’t for Citroens, you’d be a full-time pedestrian. Is there any other car you like - perhaps a distant second?

There are various different sorts of "likes" I have, Rick.
I treat all cars as machines that have to do a job, and do it well, just as a toaster (Dualit), dishwasher (Zanussi) or radio (Roberts/Hacker) does.
I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

My current fleet (3) is there for those reasons:
(1) Is for economical long European camping trips and load-carrying.

(2) Is just for pleasure of driving and total comfort on long fast trips.

(3) Is for everyday car that requires little maintenance and does what it says on the tin.

I would probably rate the Peugeot diesels as a second - same make (PSA) actually.

On the down side, no German cars - suspension not suitable for our roads, and service info difficult to obtain.

Everyday car has to be a diesel - more economical and less servicing, fewer obsolescent electronics. Petrol is typically 80p per litre here.

I like many other cars, many of which I have owned, but are not ones that I would want to buy now.

I owned:
Lanchester 10
Humber Hawk
Jaguar Mk VII
5 Austin 7s - 1927-1937

I have enjoyed driving:
Bentley 3 litre
Austin Heavy 12 1927
Citroen XM

I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

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I treat all cars as machines that have to do a job, and do it well, just as a toaster (Dualit), dishwasher (Zanussi) or radio (Roberts/Hacker) does.

I can’t believe you’d miss an opportunity to plug Teasmade.

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I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

You’d never make it as a Yank. We take great pride in showing our neighbors how much debt we can get into.

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I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

Never heard of Trabant and Prinz. Why/where/who the fuss over the Caddys?

I’m not familiar with most of the cars in your “I owned” and “I have enjoyed driving” list. But, then, I may not be a typical American.

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Originally posted by Rick:
I can’t believe you’d miss an opportunity to plug Teasmade.

So ingrained as a normal item like a cup or plate that I forgot it! I only have 5 at the moment, four of them are heading ebay-wise, when I have sorted them. There are many worse than me - just look at this lot! !

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I do not do the status symbol bit at all!

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You’d never make it as a Yank. We take great pride in showing our neighbors how much debt we can get into.

In that case, I only partially make it as a Brit!

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I would like to drive (to see what the fuss is/was about):
Any new Jaguar
RR Silver Shadow
Lexus
Two-stroke Trabant
NSU Prinz
Any big Cadillac from 60s

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Why/where/who the fuss over the Caddys?

Just to find out how different they are!

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I’m not familiar with most of the cars in your “I owned” and “I have enjoyed driving” list. But, then, I may not be a typical American.

I'll add some details to the list above, Rick.