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If we should meet and you foget me, you have lost nothing, but if you meet Jesus and forget Him, you have lost everything.


Actually I'd be put off if I saw your signature as a newbie - I'm sure it's great that you have a faith but please be aware that others have their own beliefs and don't want yours 'in their face'!

And forget is spelt with an 'R'

R2
Region, ask me if I really ever care what you think! No I don't! I try to care, but darn, I just don't. Nor do I care who is put off by my quote. Smile

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Originally posted by Shirl:
Nor do I care who is put off by my quote.
Then don't be suprised if the forum does die a slow death. Whilst your beliefs are obviously important to you, advertising them over and over can deter others from wanting to participate.

Thanks for the correction of 'spelled' - I see your Google skills are improving. Try looking up Karl Marx's well known, but often slightly misquoted, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right.

R2
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Originally posted by Shirl:
I really could care less...
ah, at the risk of sounding pedantic, I believe you in fact mean to say "I really could NOT care less". When you say "I really could care less", it means your level of caring is somewhere above zero--perhaps not terribly concerned in any case, but there is a level of caring that is less than your level of caring. Thus, you are not wholly indifferent. Whereas, when one says, "I really could NOT care less", it means, flat-out, one doesn't care at all; one doesn't care an iota or rat's buttocks; there is absolutely no level of caring below one's level of caring.
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Originally posted by petronius:
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Originally posted by Shirl:
I really could care less...
When you say "I really could care less", it means your level of caring is somewhere above zero--perhaps not terribly concerned in any case, but there is a level of caring that is less than your level of caring.
Good stuff. I hadn’t thought of that before. It’s such a cliché that few (I didn’t) think about it, and understand it.
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I am capable of making my own decisions in life.
So why inflict your chosen path on others? I believe that belief is a personal choice and those that seek to influence others are seeking comfirmation that they've made the right decision. Every war, both current and historic, seems to be based on a difference of beliefs (read religion) so perhaps it's a good move to practice quietly. In case you hadn't realised, Karl Marx's (mis)quotation was "Religion is the opiate of the masses" - I think here in the UK the Lottery may be taking over, despite the odds being 14 million to one, many a person sets aside their ambitions in the oft-vain hope of winning the jackpot.
So, Mrs Miller, I ask that you start to care and remove what others might find offensive from your signature.

R2
I will NEVER do that. What part of NO do you not understand? I choose to say what I want to say and even mis-spell if I wish. Since you are not the moderator here, I suppose I will let that person remove anything I say if it is offensive. You certainly can ignore my posts. Hmmm, what a great idea! That is what I do often here.
Can we have our forum back please?

This is not a battleground of belief systems (unless you count aBay as a religion in the sense that some of its members are fanatics - read the AS support section and make your own mind up)

On balance I would rather people have a belief system than not. I think it is unfair to say that Religions are the root of all trouble in this world. It is the followers of religion who seem to mis-apply the basic beliefs.

I still think that all the advanced religions offer a positive standard of worth to their believers. I am nominally Christian, but having been to a school where Buddhists & Hindus were also taught RE, we had an equality of input!

I no more think that the violence exacted by those London bombers was representative of Islam than I would believe the IRA represented the Catholic Church!

So - R2 if you want to be an Atheist or Agnostic who posts his creed after his signature - please do so. Ditto Shirl.

Better that you advertise something positive say I, rather than a feeble attempt at humour like me.

Peace be with you all.......


Paul
Camera - Will you never learn? When you play crusader, typically all you accomplish is escalating the tension. Not so long ago you apologized for doing that, but here you go again.

R2 is spot on – airing spiritual beliefs on a secular forum is a receipt for problems.

Perhaps all members should “advertise” their beliefs in a signature. How about the positives of abortions? Or, how about a lively discussion on stem cells? Some cute little signature about same sex marriages could be fertile ground to “liven” up the forum. Boy, are we going to have fun – something to piss off everyone

Camera – I knew you couldn’t resist getting into this. And, you even got your “thank you” from one of those “followers of religion”.

R2 – At least you got her to correct the spelling.
Shirl, You know, I was hoping the excess of my previous comment would make it obvious I did not intend it as a serious criticism. Anyway, I imagine some people (I will term me/us the "moderate camp") don't greatly mind a religious-themed tagline as such, but the particular one you've chosen does ring a bit, you know, harsh and dictatorial. It's like saying, "You will burn in hell, sinners!" A bit less militant-sounding and off-putting would be something like "The Kingdom of God is within you". Merely a suggestion......

R2 "opiate of the masses" it's funny, for 20 years now I've assumed this was from Communist Manifesto. Nor have I ever read his critique of Hegel. Is there possibly a similar line in the manifesto...... (There was also a line about "illusory sun around which revolves" something or other, but whether this was in reference to god or money, I can't remember.....)
Thank you Paul - for what? He was trying to calm the situation down by climbing on the fence but you obviously see Cam's posting as some sort of victory for the god-fearing minority 'cos he says he is nominally Christian. Meanwhile, you were asking if the forum was going down the tubes and I was explaining that your signature is potentially off-putting to the majority. This is an INTERNATIONAL forum with people from many different backgrounds - you'll note that politics rarely get discussed because it means nothing to those from 'elsewhere'. When country-specific stuff is mentioned it often requires subsequent translation (I learnt what going postal meant in this very forum!). Mrs Miller's beliefs are obviously important to her - does she really need to force them on others every time she posts? Let's have a witty signature (changed regularly!) or nothing at all...

And Pet's right - a loose translation of the sig. in question is BELIEVE OR DIE! Like its owner, a bit too bossy for me. And more or less what the London Bombers et al were saying in their terrible way...

R2
e-shop 'til you e-drop!
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He was trying to calm the situation down by climbing on the fence


Exactly!

Actually Rick, I don't get mad when I see the bumper stickers on other people's cars (& some can be pretty inflammatory!) so why should I be bothered about their signature line?

Mike (& R2 if he's old enough!) would be mildly amused by the one I put on the back of my car at uni "Race tuned by Enoch Powell!"

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How about the positives of abortions? Or, how about a lively discussion on stem cells? Some cute little signature about same sex marriages could be fertile ground to “liven” up the forum


Actaully none of these would get my "dander" up, but if R2 goes one step further in his sig and mentions Tesco, Wall Mart or Sainsburys I'll have him horsewhipped within an inch of his life! Damn exploiters of the poor and despoilers of our countryside!

Paul

"A plague on all supermarkets!"
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Originally posted by Camera:
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He was trying to calm the situation down by climbing on the fence


Exactly!
It must just be me, but does someone ELSE *always* have to come in and “calm the situation down”? I’m fairly sure that all the remaining (survival of the fittest) regulars are more then qualified to “duke it out” on their own. And, no one is forcing anyone/two to duke it, so why does someone/two/3/4/5/+ feel they need to calm things? Perhaps some1 needs to be elected the official “situation-calmer” because everyone/all is/are OUT OF CONTROL! (I wish there was a [blink] UBB Code Tag). Only problem with trying to find a situation-calmer – who’s going to calm the calmer? Maybe each of us should choose a designated-calmer . . . “Friends Don’t Let Friends Post Un-calm” (Acalm?) - I swear I'm calm . . . currently.



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Originally posted by Camera:
Actually Rick, I don't get mad when I see the bumper stickers on other people's cars (& some can be pretty inflammatory!) . . .
The bumper stickers that bug me are those in small print. I doubt the bumper owners appreciate my tailgating them, although it does give me something to read while I’m driving.



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Originally posted by Camera:
Actaully none of these would get my "dander" up . . .
That was a given. They were just examples of topics that someone else might find offensive – “tit for tat”.



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Originally posted by Camera:
. . .but if R2 goes one step further in his sig and mentions Tesco, Wall Mart or Sainsburys I'll have him horsewhipped within an inch of his life!
While we’re discussing it, what impact does Starbucks have on British dander (I sure hope I don't use "dandruff" in the future)?



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Originally posted by Camera:
Damn exploiters of the poor . . .
Hey, someone has to exploit the poor otherwise they’ll feel left out. They might even start a class action lawsuit demanding equal treatment.



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Originally posted by Camera:
"A plague on all supermarkets!"
Why supermarkets, Paul? Is it just a “Big is bad” thing? Are liquor stores OK?
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Are liquor stores OK?


Fine, I have no problem with anybody drinking himself into oblivion, as long as it doesn't affect me!

If you are interested in preserving liquor stores, then you should join my little "anti-supermarket" campaign before they all vanish. Here in the UK the number 2 liquor store chain has just thrown in the towel.

Supermarkets again!

They are creating a desert in the countryside. Small village stores cannot compete and for many villages the loss of the shop is blow not just to the poor but to the old and those that do not drive. Local shop owners spent the money they earned in the local community employing the decorator, the builder, the gardener etc.
The part time store `assistant on minimum wage can barely afford to live, let alone support an infra structure of tradespeople!

Each town now has a range of identi-kit grey sheds as you approach it - diversity is on the way out and uniformity is on the way in.

Who controls them? You the shareholder? I doubt it? The pension funds? Are they bothered?

I gather everyone in the States is not too keen on Walmart either! I feel the same about Tesco. My little comic gesture of not patronising them will not be noticed, but eventually I hope more will join me and it will.

Paul

To paraphrase a certain quote:
If you shop at the local store, you have lost nothing, but if you shop at Walmart, you will eventually lose everything!
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Originally posted by Bartelby:
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Originally posted by Rick:
Because of my Yank background

I love it when you talk dirty
It results from the combination of longitude and attitude.



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Funky Stuff.....The electric chair was invented by a dentist.
That may have been to discourage patients that didn’t have dental insurance.



Paul, regarding Wal-Mart (“Wal-Mart” is in my spellchecker! “Tesco” isn't.): I don’t shop there because I have a hard time finding where an item is located and the stores are always crowded. Now, I love Sam’s Club. It’s owned by the same company – the only difference is that instead of using shopping carts, one uses those big flatbed dollies. Also, Sam’s requires a membership, which tends to keep the traffic caused by less-desirables at a minimum.



This current thread might be able to compete with the "Adhesive bras!!!!" thread.
Interest in "WANTED: Black PVC Nurses Costume" seems to have waned.
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Originally posted by region2 in this thread:
Actually I'd be put off if I saw your signature as a newbie - I'm sure it's great that you have a faith but please be aware that others have their own beliefs and don't want yours 'in their face'!
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Originally posted by region2 in the (8:37:22 AM) See video ..... thread:
If we all report this idiot maybe they'll go away!
Someone at AS must have agreed, as that “video” thread has been deleted.
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Someone at AS must have agreed, as that “video” thread has been deleted.


Shame! Nothing like a good bit of bigotry to bring out the best in our little circle.

However down to some forthright criticism again .....

Rick & R2 - I am not certain which of you has the most convoluted mind, but resurrecting this long dead thread in place of posting a new one in the general forum is completely beyond my understanding!

Paul
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Originally posted by Camera:
Rick & R2 - I am not certain which of you has the most convoluted mind, but resurrecting this long dead thread in place of posting a new one in the general forum is completely beyond my understanding!
Is there a question somewhere in there? Remember, “Grasshopper” – the only way you can learn is to ask.

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