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No! No! I'm sure you'll whallop my butt!

R2



BUTT: Dictionary Entry and Meaning
Pronunciation: but


WordNet Dictionary

Definition: [n] thick end of the handle
[n] the small unused part of something (especially the end of a cigarette that is left after smoking)
[n] a large cask (especially one holding a volume equivalent to 2 hogsheads or 126 gallons)
[n] a joint made by fastening ends together without overlapping
[n] finely ground tobacco wrapped in paper; for smoking
[n] sports equipment consisting of an object set up for a marksman or archer to aim at
[n] the fleshy part of the human body that you sit on
[n] a victim of ridicule or pranks
[v] to strike, thrust or shove against, often with head or horns; "He butted his sister out of the way."
[v] lie adjacent to another or share a boundary; "Canada adjoins the U.S."; "England marches with Scotland"
[v] place end to end without overlapping; "The frames must be butted at the joints"
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Originally posted by Chatter163:
While I personally I am not into the whole welcome banner thing, many people are. I also believe that this thread was a bit of an undeserved slap at Mrs. M. As such, I am not thrilled with its content. Frown

Hmmm - really Chatter163? I am of the opinion that too many images detract from the content, others have their own opinions. The reason for the Poll was to get some sort of idea as to what the consensus was. I.e. Should the forums members take up bandwidth welcoming new arrivals (sometimes 3 or 4 times!) or should the forum answer the question posed? Let the Poll decide.

R2



BTW - Chatter163/Dave - have you voted yet?
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Originally posted by region2:
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Originally posted by Chatter163:
While I personally I am not into the whole welcome banner thing, many people are. I also believe that this thread was a bit of an undeserved slap at Mrs. M. As such, I am not thrilled with its content. Frown

Hmmm - really Chatter163? I am of the opinion that too many images detract from the content, others have their own opinions. The reason for the Poll was to get some sort of idea as to what the consensus was. I.e. Should the forums members take up bandwidth welcoming new arrivals (sometimes 3 or 4 times!) or should the forum answer the question posed? Let the Poll decide.

R2

BTW - Chatter163/Dave - have you voted yet?


1) Yes, really.
2) You are entitled to believe that. I myelf do not get too involved in the welcome thing, either. However, this is not the way to go about it, because it is disrespectful.
3) My point is that you know darned well who posts banners most frequently--that is no mystery to anyone here, so your poll seems a very direct and rude way to hurt a certain member's feelings. While her chatty way may not be mine, she is an integral member of this forum, and I resent the way you have trampled over her sensiblities with this thoughtless thread. The fact that she is older than you makes this even more reprehensible.
4) It is a form of bullying to suggest that other members should vote on how someone writes a post. That is her decision--not yours, not mine, and not even for a majority of members to decide. What kind of nonsense is that? Are you paying for the bandwidth on this forum--why are you so worried about that? If you were to tell me how I should write my posts, I would not care if your frivolous poll got 100% response against me, I would tell you to go fly a kite and go right on writing in my own way.
5) Frankly, it is none of your business if I voted or not.


I, for one, hope that you will offer Mrs. M a public apology for your shameful mistreatment of her. Mad
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Originally posted by Puppy Raiser:

I'll let a secret out about myself... If you want to discourage me from posting/reading a topic, just post a picture that's to wide and runs off the screen. Big Grin     Wink



Same here--I tend not to even look at those. What I do NOT, do, however, is to post polls that purport to tell others what they can and cannot post. Eek
There was me thinking that I'd tried to be balanced, asking people's opinions in the open (rather than having secret off-line chats about people as has happened in the past...). I make no secret that I'm not keen on the "Welcome to Forum", "yes, Welcome to the Forum" etc etc messages but to imply that it is some dig at one particular person is wrong.

Now, lets analyse Chatter163's response:-


1) Yes, really. - not sure about the numbering - I guess you write lots of lists.

2) You are entitled to believe that. I myelf do not get too involved in the welcome thing, either. However, this is not the way to go about it, because it is disrespectful. - I'm not seeing any disrespect in the Poll - I only asked a question and posted a poll. Two of the topics were positive, 1 neutral and 1 negative. Not one mentioned anyone's name nor was it implied...

3) My point is that you know darned well who posts banners most frequently--that is no mystery to anyone here, so your poll seems a very direct and rude way to hurt a certain member's feelings. While her chatty way may not be mine, she is an integral member of this forum, and I resent the way you have trampled over her sensiblities with this thoughtless thread. The fact that she is older than you makes this even more reprehensible. - sorry - nothing I said could be construed as rude or ageist.

4) It is a form of bullying to suggest that other members should vote on how someone writes a post. That is her decision--not yours, not mine, and not even for a majority of members to decide. What kind of nonsense is that? Are you paying for the bandwidth on this forum--why are you so worried about that? If you were to tell me how I should write my posts, I would not care if your frivolous poll got 100% response against me, I would tell you to go fly a kite and go right on writing in my own way. - well exactly - it was just a test of people's opinions and not a directive from on high. It certainly cannot be construed as 'bullying'. I repeat - I am just seeking people's opinions.

5) Frankly, it is none of your business if I voted or not. - very true. It was just a retorical question to which you seem to have over-reacted.

I'm pleased that this poll has got people 'talking' - it's a shame that certain people seem to think that it's a personal dig at one particular person when really it was an attempt to gauge other's reactions to the way the forum has 'leant' in the last few months...

Still - we can write what we want so you've said your piece - lets see where the poll goes...

R2

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Originally posted by Puppy Raiser:
I'll let a secret out about myself... If you want to discourage me from posting/reading a topic, just post a picture that's to wide and runs off the screen. Big Grin


Hey! It was only one picture! Smile

I haven't finished reading this thread ... but I'm going to chime in anyway ...

What's wrong with being nice? We have a very small welcoming committee who meet and greet all the newbies in a prompt and professional manner. Strange that these are also the same people that answer questions, provide support and rarely (I'm ignoring Puppy's crack about my HUGE picture Smile) participate in flaming other people.

Some forums allow images, some don't. This one does - and if you are on a slow dialup connection you might be better served by disabling images in your browser when coming here. Keep in mind that the internet was basically an email system between scientists and government agencies before pictures were added to the WWW. We wouldn't even be having this discussion without that addition.

Mrs. M, puppy, lexie, etc.... keep up the good work!

R2 - Debate often leads to reform, either of others positions or our own. Your poll is just as valid as any other post and I'm glad you're part of our little group Wink Just make sure you're wearing a floatation device when you rock the boat!

Mother Mary Says, 'HONESTLY! you're just ruint!'
The claim that the poll question was not directed at any one person is laughable. We all know who posts the overwhelming majority of welcome banners, so about whom was the poll concerned, then, if not Mrs. M? Please tell use whom else you meant.

If I stated that we should have a poll question asking whether or not members should waste bandwidth or burden our eyesight by posting a large black apostrophe (or comma, whichever it is) with a yellow background, whom would our members reasonaly conclude I meant, if not you? If you said that we should have a poll asking if members should have forum ID's that end in the number 163, whom would would our members reasonably conclude you meant, if not me? Therefore, your attempt to claim that the poll question was not directed at any particular member is completely implausible, since virtually all of the welcome banners are posted by a single member.

You last post ignored my observations concerning the poll. It is not your place to try and use the poll results to try and pressure a member to change her style of posting. And please do not try to say that you were not atempting this; your earlier post clearly said to "let the poll decide" if these were appropriate. Equally ludicrous is the pretense that an additional purpose is to get bring the discussion out into the open and avoid "secret offline chats." Such altruistic motives--gag! Tell you what, instead of trying to police private conversations that people allegedly have (and can say whatever they wish there--good, bad or indifferent), why don't you knock off this immature nonsense and quit pretending you were not speaking of anyone in particular?

I will be awaiting your identification of the other parties to whom the poll made reference.
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