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Originally posted by caneartist:
the old accounts in my clock books from. say, 1400 forward, have strange words in them. "viij shillings to take up the peys and the plummys" Eight shillings to wind up the weights!
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I think I could have figured that one out. Just looking at it, "plummys" immediately struck me as similar to "plumb" or "plumb bob" which of course, is a weight on the end of a line.

I am sure that is where the word came from - I often wonder if they spoke these words as well, just the same?
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And, I looked at "viij," which looks Dutch and thought perhaps it was pronounced "vay". That rhymes with eigh-t.

Although "ij" is a Dutch thing, and is pronounced like a "y" or "i" - as in Rijn (Rhine, the river that ends up in the North Sea), the viij is actually a Roman 8 - VIII. I think the "j" was just a flourish.
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And then "to take up," well, that's obvious. Maybe there was no word for "wind" back then.

But I did get the general idea of the sentence! Not bad for a Yank, don't you think?

Agreed, Nancy! Big Grin
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Got any more? Do you collect clocks? I collect Roman coins and arifacts that I can afford, and all kinds of other things.

I collect clocks, but don't really have a collection! What is he saying? OK - I have been interested in making and restoring clocks for about 40+ years now, but all the clocks in the house have to actually work and be useful; if not, or I tire of them, they are sold.
The oldest one we have dates from ca 1720:

It is still doing the same job, and just as well, as it did when new nearly three centuries ago. This is the last time I had to service it:


As a contrast, here is one I made about 10 years ago:



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Made a call to the Bone Marrow and Transplant Clinic where I had my biopsy done. Got an answering machine. Why does that not surprise me? Roll Eyes They'll probably call in about another 5 hours like last time. As I write, it is almost 11:30 AM. (biting fingernails)

Shipwreck

We are waiting! Good luck! Smile
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Galoshes, Nancy. Like this



I had heard the term Mike, but never had registered what it meant.

Interesting.

I have inherited two old (19th century) clocks, but after many years they became unreliable and I stopped winding them up.

The trouble is that there are no competant clock repairers in the area that I know of. A lost art? I just heard horror stories of "bodging" & overcharging. In the end I found a chap on the far side of the country (Leicester) who advertised old clocks on eBay and seemed to have a good reputation.

However, four months down the line, one is still not ready!

Paul

Paul
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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
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Originally posted by caneartist:
Plural: rubbers - soft, low cut, rubber overshoes to protect good leather shoes from rain & snow.

So what are they called in the UK?

(Are we getting goofy, or what?) LOL!

(1) Galoshes, Nancy. Like this
(2) What, probably.


Ohhhh.... I always thought the work "galoshes" was Eastern European. My Hungarian grandmother used to say things like (think with a thick accent, now):
"Achhhhh.....Don't you go out vitout pootink on babushka and galoshes. You catch cold! And vhere is jacket? Should know better!"
Although "ij" is a Dutch thing, and is pronounced like a "y" or "i" - as in Rijn (Rhine, the river that ends up in the North Sea), the viij is actually a Roman 8 - VIII. I think the "j" was just a flourish.
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How about that? I learned something new today! Cool.

I have an old mantle clock bought in Germany in 1965. Stopped working and it costs a small fortune to get it repaired now. Too bad you live "over there." LOL!
We are waiting! Good luck! Smile

Good news: No cancer cells in bone marrow, although that was an unofficial announcement from the neurologist and not the oncologist.

Bad news: Neuro thinks I need back surgery to relieve pinching of my sciatic nerve. If I don't have that, he says, rehab after I get my new hip will be compromised.

How many surgeries, do you suppose, a person can go through???? Geez, I'll be laid up for MONTHS! Not to mention Oncology will want to monitor my "monoclonal gammopathy."

My dentist asked me today if I went any where for vacation this year. HA! My answer is my standard: I go to hospitals.

When other people take out vacation photos, I take out a book of my X-rays! LOL!

Hey, how do I include some of those in these posts?

Nancy
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Originally posted by Camera:
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Galoshes, Nancy. Like this



I had heard the term Mike, but never had registered what it meant.

Interesting.

I have inherited two old (19th century) clocks, but after many years they became unreliable and I stopped winding them up.

Paul
Most clocks of this age only need a service - dismantle, clean, reassemble and oil. Depending on what sort they are, a days' work.
Newer (20th c) clocks usually wear more - many of those in the 1970s on are totally knackered after 10 years!
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The trouble is that there are no competant clock repairers in the area that I know of. A lost art? I just heard horror stories of "bodging" & overcharging.

Sadly, true. There are probably only a few dozen "real" clockmakers iin the UK. I exclude myself as I have never repaired clocks professionally. Messrs Bodgit and Scarper often belong to august bodies like the NAWCC and BHI, so there is no guarantee at all that membership will get you a proper job. In the 1700s, anyone who did not belong to the Clockmakers' Company would get no work at all, and if they did not do a proper job, their feet would not touch the ground!
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In the end I found a chap on the far side of the country (Leicester) who advertised old clocks on eBay and seemed to have a good reputation.

However, four months down the line, one is still not ready!

Hmmm.....what sort of clocks are they, and what is the reason for the delay? If the word "parts" is mentioned, grab the clocks and run. Eek
You could have dropped them off here - about the same distance? I could probably have sorted them in a few weeks.
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Originally posted by caneartist:
Although "ij" is a Dutch thing, and is pronounced like a "y" or "i" - as in Rijn (Rhine, the river that ends up in the North Sea), the viij is actually a Roman 8 - VIII. I think the "j" was just a flourish.
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How about that? I learned something new today! Cool.

I have an old mantle clock bought in Germany in 1965. Stopped working and it costs a small fortune to get it repaired now. Too bad you live "over there." LOL!

Nancy
Most newer clocks like this wear quite a lot. There are many more clock repairers in the USA, though. They do have a habit of swapping movements, though, which I object to. However, if a clock needs $500 labour spending on it, and a movement is $200, I suppose that this has to be so.
It is probably either a Kieninger, Urgos or Hermle.
It may be worth registering on here to get an idea if there are any forum members near you who can help.
Mark Butterworth is the expert on these sorts of clocks. It's mantel by the way, as in "mantelpiece". A mantle you either set light to or chuck it over your shoulder. Wink
All my mantles you set light to (I have a small collection of pressure lanterns and stoves).

Good that your results have arrived, even though there is a bit more work to do, the uncertainty has gone.
I have had two knackered discs for about 30 years now, but the good news is that as you get older the discs get harder, and give less trouble by touching bits of spinal cord (I call it my wiring loom).
Two Tramadols every day for life mean that I can crawl under cars and lift heavy radios with no pain. Big Grin
Interesting you should mention Tramadol. I've tried them and they do not seem to do a thing for me. My sister-in-law, on the other hand, absolutely swears by them. She says they work on muscle pain, not bone pain.

Would you believe, as a former nurse, I've never bothered to look them up? The more syndroms, fractures, or illnesses I get (and maybe the OLDER I get), the less interested I am in all the details of what I take. Shame on me. I know. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Occasionally, the gubmint ostensibly wake up and bleat about having to do something about it, but it has not happened, yet. Employers despair about prospective employees being illiterate, through no fault of their own.
I always suspected you of favoring bigger government.
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Originally posted by caneartist:
Interesting you should mention Tramadol. I've tried them and they do not seem to do a thing for me. My sister-in-law, on the other hand, absolutely swears by them. She says they work on muscle pain, not bone pain.

Would you believe, as a former nurse, I've never bothered to look them up? The more syndroms, fractures, or illnesses I get (and maybe the OLDER I get), the less interested I am in all the details of what I take. Shame on me. I know. Roll Eyes

Hmmm - dunno. On the packet it says that they prevent the pain messages getting to the brain, or something.
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Originally posted by Rick:
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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Occasionally, the gubmint ostensibly wake up and bleat about having to do something about it, but it has not happened, yet. Employers despair about prospective employees being illiterate, through no fault of their own.
I always suspected you of favoring bigger government.

I would just like one that actually did what it promised in its manifesto, Rick. Roll Eyes
I fear it will never happen, though. Now they tell us that they have no idea where so-called asylum seekers are that have escaped from prison in their native lands, and have committed murder, rape and the like. They are just free to wander around our country, and no-one knows who they are or how many there are in total.
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Originally posted by Mike from West Yorkshire:
Now they tell us that they have no idea where so-called asylum seekers are that have escaped from prison in their native lands, and have committed murder, rape and the like.
Always thought it was a mistake when England gave asylum to the Loyalist after the American Revolution, especially considering that Benedict Arnold was unlikely to qualify for New York unemployment benefits.



“Asylum” is an interesting word. Seeking asylum is considered good, whereas being committed into an asylum is considered bad. In the first situation the individual thinks other people are crazy, and in the second situation other people think the individual is crazy. Please – no medication jokes.
“Asylum” is an interesting word. Seeking asylum is considered good, whereas being committed into an asylum is considered bad. In the first situation the individual thinks other people are crazy, and in the second situation other people think the individual is crazy. Please – no medication jokes.
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LOL! Ohhhhhhh, the urge to mention something about Thorazine or Lithium is just killing me!!!! But I won't ask you a thing about your medications. After all, everybody is something at some point in their lives. Just because you've been forgetting your Haldol lately...................OOPS!!!

Sorry.

But I agree, asylum IS an intesting word. I've been locked up now for 9 years! Wink

Nancy the nut case
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Originally posted by Rick:

“Asylum” is an interesting word. Seeking asylum is considered good, whereas being committed into an asylum is considered bad. In the first situation the individual thinks other people are crazy, and in the second situation other people think the individual is crazy. Please – no medication jokes.

It may solve some problems if they combined the two! Mad

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