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Am I the Only One Who Hates How eBay Pushes PayPal?

mrsmmrsmMember
Well, I take paypal for about everything except items that are over 1000 dollars. Part of it is the fee that is incured and part of it is that I prefer to have cash in hand or cashier's check for something that expensive that some one could buy,take, destroy, and then try any kind of chargeback. I took paypal on the first camper I ever sold, for the deposit. The person ended up not having any money in her account. It was a hassle to relist, get my money back from the auction, etc. It was the last and only time. I cannot say it had ever hurt any of my auctions and I have sold many items in the thousands. Smile

puppyraiserpuppyraiserMember
I don't accept credit cards, but even if I did, I'd be MORE likely to accept PayPal on big ticket items. I want my money fast for less chance of bidder changing his/her mind!

Also I toss in free shipping (or very low) for the big bucks. You might be amazed how people will bid $20 extra to save $10 in shipping. That's especially true if there are several auctions from different sellers. Most of my items are small and the cost is insurance.

(edit)... Didn't think about what Mrs.M just posted though... Hmmmm....

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rickrickMember
Increasing the price of an item to compensate for potential credit card charges will work on something that has a fixed cost/price, such as the items sold by the retail businesses listed in the prior post. I don't see how increasing the starting bid would accomplish the same thing for most auctions. I understand that if the auction has only 1 bidder (or "maybe" 2) then a starting bid of $11.99 instead of $9.99 would cover the fee (or what ever it takes).

Put another way - Two different auctions:

#1) Has a starting price of $9.99 but doesn't accept Paypal. Closing price $100.

#2) Has a starting price of $11.99 but does accept Paypal. Closing price is $100.

However you slice it, seller #1 made more money because they don't have a Paypal fee. Now, #2 will probably get more bids, at least he'll get mine, and his cash flow is better (if that's important).

I'm like most everyone else - I won't do a money order unless it's something very rare, but that's very rare.
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mrsmmrsmMember
Yes, you are correct, I think about the fees, Rick. I do accept checks or money order, if they want on smaller items and have a lot of people that do use that method. Personally, not because of any protection ( because I think it is like pulling teeth),but because of the speed and convenience, I prefer paypal for small items I buy. Larger items, well, must tell you, I get in my truck and go to where ever and look at the item and pay for it. Yes, that IS what I do. I don't spend large sums, site unseen. Everything looks good in a picture!! Smile

C chatterMember
quote:
Originally posted by Jabbergah:

I didn't tell the seller why I was asking or that I really wasn't interested in bidding, I just asked why no PayPal? He said since the item was big ticket, he didn't want to pay the big resulting PayPal fee.


IMHO, in many cases, this is being penny-wise but pound foolish. They end up missing a huge number of potential bidders, whose increased bid amounts would more than make up for any fees. They also miss out on the added protection for both buyer AND seller. Frown
G geeklineMember
quote:
Originally posted by Shirley:
Don't worry, geekline, you're not so much of an oddball. I see auctions all the time with notes from the seller saying "I do NOT accept Paypal".


Yeah, as do I. Only in my auction listings, when I stated that I didnt accept PayPal I would still get people e-mailing me all the time asking me to take PayPal or to join PayPal. So I went a step further and began posting that anyone who asks me to take PayPal will automatically get negative feedback. (The feedback is deserved - because I state like three times in my listings no PayPal and if someone asks me to take PayPal even after that, they obviously havent read the auction description or chose to ignore it as the case may be). Ironicly, the e-mails stopped. Smile

Funny you all mention people e-mailing sellers and telling them "you just lost my bid" because I just got a nastygram from someone saying that and a few other things. It might have been someone on here but I dont really care. I hope they felt better after they were dont ranting and raving. LOL

I take personal checks, money orders, cash and credit cards through another third-party processor. I dont hold personal checks, either - and thus far (knock on wood) I havent gotten any of them back marked "NSF", "Account Closed" or "Refer to Maker".

I supppose that is probably due to the rather extensive terms I put into my listings... see a sample at the link below.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=2456084025
G geeklineMember
Also... I see that the listings pages are now cluttered up with little "PP" logos to denote items by which the seller accepts PayPal. They should include a search that allows a user to see only items that are sold by customers NOT accepting PayPal... and there should be a little "PP" with the no-smoking symbol thing through it too. Fair is fair...
bartelbybartelbyMember



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If you don't agree to any of these terms or are too stupid to follow them, then please just don't bid. There are plenty of sellers who will put up with your bull but I will not. I just want to part out my Eagle and sell off some stuff around here to raise some money to fund the restoration to my new Eagle. I have no desire to play collection agent with people. I quit that job because I hated it. I hope that this is understood. This is a binding contract and it will hold up in court - don't make me enforce it.


Love your terms geekline. You have such a way with words Razz

Lexie

"If you read - you will judge!"
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mrsmmrsmMember
To answer my own question, this is from the Ebay Feedback forum:
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This question has 1 reply on 1 page
Feedback, neg, in auction listing
Posted: January 29, 2004 10:32 AM


Is it against Ebay rules to say that if you do not do thus and thus when you win my auction, I will leave you negative feedback? (On the seller's auction page)



Re: Feedback, neg, in auction listing
Posted: January 29, 2004 10:54 AM
doorbell70 (44) (view author's auctions) Posts: 3236

Is it against the rules? No

In my opinion it is pretty stupid though. If I saw an auction where the seller was focused on negative feedback for whatever perceived potential infractions, or set up many conditions that could lead to negative feedback - well, I just wouldn't bid. Even if I knew I could comply with the seller's terms, it probably wouldn't be worth risking.





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