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I lost an auction because my snipe time was too long

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Are you sure, since you usually can't know the winning bidders max, only what it took to win. Maybe you just lost to a bid planned well in advance... just like your bid was.

Care to share an auction number?

If your bid was for a typewriter, I think you just lost to a higher bid, and would have lost even with a snipe at one second.

First bid was $6.95
My bid was $10.00
Winning bid was $10.50

Jun-14-04 14:43:09 PDT US $10.50
Jun-14-04 15:31:15 PDT US $10.00

Winning bid was placed before mine. Interesting coincidence that it was $10.50. Am I missing the point somewhere? Why would my bid even show up if it was made after the winning bid???

Item number: 5500703120

Question: If another sniper's bid went in before mine when the item was, say, at $7 and his/hers was $10.50, would it "rise to the occasion" after my $10 bid went in? Like this:

Bid: $7
Sniper A ($10.50 max): $7.50
Sniper B (me - $10 max): $8.00
Sniper A: bid becomes $10.50 to go past my $10 max????????

Fortunately, it's not a big issue . . . this time. <G>

Thanks!

Sorry for the delay, something came up.

Here is the auction:

The following table has been reorganized and sorted into date order.  First
bid placed is line #1.  That should make it easier to follow the auction.
Two additional columns have been calculated and added.  They are the current 
bid and high bidder, as displayed on eBay after each bid is placed.        v2.1.08
* = Winning bid. (may be less than actual maximum entered.)
 
                     Max                       Current Winning
  #    Bidder        Bid      Day & Time        Bid  &  Bidder
                   (US $)
  1   djgillstudio *10.50   14-Jun  14:43:09    6.95   djgillstudio 
  2   judyandstu    10.00   14-Jun  15:31:15   10.50   djgillstudio 
        End                 14-Jun  15:31:27             

Because of the 'Proxy' bidding system at eBay, only enough of a max bid is used to get/stay in the lead. The winning bidders max could have been $25 or more. There is no way to tell. After their bid the current price was 6.95 (opening amount), so that makes your bid for $10 valid, because it was at least one bid increment above.

Here is what the auction would have looked like with the additional bid you mentioned.

The following table has been reorganized and sorted into date order.  First
bid placed is line #1.  That should make it easier to follow the auction.
Two additional columns have been calculated and added.  They are the current 
bid and high bidder, as displayed on eBay after each bid is placed.        v2.1.08
* = Winning bid. (may be less than actual maximum entered.)
 
                     Max                       Current Winning
  #    Bidder        Bid      Day & Time        Bid  &  Bidder
                   (US $)
  1   addedbidder    7.00   14-Jun  14:20:09    6.95   addedbidder  
  2   djgillstudio *10.50   14-Jun  14:43:09    7.50   djgillstudio 
  3   judyandstu    10.00   14-Jun  15:31:15   10.50   djgillstudio 
        End                 14-Jun  15:31:27             

OR

* = Winning bid. (may be less than actual maximum entered.)
 
                     Max                       Current Winning
  #    Bidder        Bid      Day & Time        Bid  &  Bidder
                   (US $)
  1   djgillstudio *10.50   14-Jun  14:43:09    6.95   djgillstudio 
  2   addedbidder    7.00   14-Jun  15:31:09    7.50   djgillstudio  
  3   judyandstu    10.00   14-Jun  15:31:15   10.50   djgillstudio 
        End                 14-Jun  15:31:27             

In this last example, addedbidder's bid would have been rejected by eBay as an invalid bid but I cheated and entered it anyway. the $7.00 bid would not have been recorded because it's not a full increment above the current price of 6.95, but an $8 bid would have been valid resulting in a current price of $8.50 in line 2

I didn't think my lower bid would show up *after* the winning bid.

I had the impression that proxy bids show up all along the way so that you could easily drive up the price. Is that not correct? The proxy bid "changes" as necessary?

As I mentioned, fortunately this wasn't a "crucial" item to my collection.

Sorry for my confusion . . .

eBay lists bids by amount, from highest to lowest, and NOT in the order in which they were made. Hence, the highest (i.e., winning) bid is always listed first, followed by the next highest bid, etc. It does not matter if the winning bid came before or after your snipe, or if it was made a week before, or whenever. The highest bid always wins, regardless of when it was made.

It is extremely unlikely that the winning bid was merely fifty cents above yours. Fifty cents was merely one increment above your top bid--in other words, that was all it took to keep the high bidder one increment above your snipe. Simply put, you were outbid.

eBay does not list the winning bidder's max; it only lists the amount needed to keep him one increment above the next highest. If bidder A bids $10.00 on an item and bidder B bids $78.67, the bid history at the end of the auction will show bidder B winning for $10.50, which is one increment above the next highest bid. It will NOT show that he actually bid nearly eight times thye next highest bid. Consequently, you have no way of knowing how much the winner bid, only that he bid more than you did.

Also, it is a better idea not to bid in even dollar amounts. An odd cents amount (like $78.67) could make a difference, if someone else's max was near your own.

Good luck.

Thanks for the further explanation. Always learning . . . <G>

Chatter should certainly know..he's the "KING" of snipes!

Thanks, though no additions to the 823 total since I have been traveling these past two weeks.