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MUST REDUCE THE LEAD TIME!

D dean51Member
This is a wonderful service. You do not have to be at your computer for bidding. Thus you don't have to constantly think about getting back to your computer, which is very annoying for your family. You MUST use a service like this to "come in under the radar" of the professional e-bayer's. If you don't use this service, the professionals watch your bids and you are actually defining the price of what this item is worth for them. How else would they know? So you have just bid against yourself by letting them know how much it is worth. PROBLEM. We aren't the only ones using this service. I am getting KILLED with a LEAD TIME OF A MINIMUM OF 3 SECONDS. I am still getting outbid by 1 dollar!. I have to be able to come in at 1 or 2 sec. I know this greatly increases the risk of my bid not making it in time, but, that is a risk I am willing to take. Because currently, they see my bid at 3 sec and come in at a few dollars more. So I still don't get the item. Dean
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rickrickMember
Not to discount your concerns, but (there’s always a “but”) it’s likely (I didn’t say “certain”) that if another snipe was placed within a 3-second window that snipe was sent by a sniping service/program, which even if your snipe hit 1 second before the end, the results would have been the same. It’s somewhat difficult (I didn’t say “impossible”) for another sniper to react to a bid within 3 seconds. There may be some in ebay land that are that fast on the draw, but I’d think they would be rare.

As far as being outbid by $1 – it could be that you lost by a lot more. With ebay’s bid increment system it’s usually not apparent how high the winning bid actually was.

If you feel you need a response from AS support, you might want to try this link: http://support.auctionsniper.com/
region2region2Member
AS doesn't automatically make you win - it's the highest bid that wins not the last one that was placed. I care not what R|ck says, your bid/snipe isn't being reacted to, the winner is placing a higher maximum bid. Think about it - your bid goes in at 6 seconds and the item will sit at up to one increment above the next highest bid and not at your max - it's only when the other, higher snipe arrives that the item goes up to your max plus one.

Let's have an Auction number - that might help the explanation!

Cue some inane drivel from R|ck about something I may or may not have said 5 years ago...

R2 (8 seconds)
rickrickMember
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Originally posted by region2:
it's the highest bid that wins not the last one that was placed.
If you really endorse that statement, then why not place a proxy bid through ebay as soon as you see the auction?



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Originally posted by region2:
I care not what R|ck says, your bid/snipe isn't being reacted to
Now region2, you know what happens when you don’t take the time to read and comprehend what someone actually posted.



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Originally posted by region2:
Let's have an Auction number - that might help the explanation!
Don’t do it, Dean. Even if the winning sniper placed 3 bids in the last few seconds of the auction, region2 would say that the sniper wasn’t reacting to your snipe – it was just some fancy sniping software, or some such fantasy.



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Originally posted by region2:
Cue some inane drivel from R|ck about something I may or may not have said 5 years ago...
Does that mean you’ve changed your opinion? I knew I was a positive influence on you.
rickrickMember
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Originally posted by Rick:
Now region2, you know what happens when you don’t take the time to read and comprehend what someone actually posted.
Did you read (notice I didn’t use “reread”) my first post on this thread, region2? Apology accepted!



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Originally posted by region2:
Cue some inane drivel from R|ck about something I may or may not have said 5 years ago...
Region2, what’s your “latest” thinking on how long it takes to place a reactive snipe? You’ve posted that you don’t think it can be done, or at least you can’t do it, in 50 seconds. Of course, you didn’t think 40, 39, or 34 seconds was enough time. Have you changed your opinion? Do you think it’s less, say 49 seconds? Do you think it’s more, say 2 or 3 hours?
D dean51Member
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Take a look. The auction ended at 39 seconds. I used a lead time of 3 sec but my bid came in at 33 sec (6 sec before the end) two bids came in after me at 34 sec each. If they had bid a higher amount earlier those times would show it. By the way the purchaser is now flipping the item. Definitely a professional e-bayer.
rickrickMember
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two bids came in after me at 34 sec each
I’m probably going to agree with region2, or he’ll agree with me, on this. Seeing that those 2 bids have the same timestamp, it’s likely it was a sniping service (I warned you about posting the auction number), such as AS, which has multiple servers that place multiple snipes. Typically ebay won’t accept more than one bid from the same bidder for the same amount, but there has been times when an AS sniper will post that ebay recorded up to 4 bids for them, all with the same time stamp, all for the same amount. For a manual bidder to react to your snipe, they would have to have at least two computers and both of them would have to be set to snipe, and the enter key would have to be pressed concurrently on both pc’s. I suppose it’s possible – but then, anything is “possible”, but that doesn’t mean it’s “likely”.
rickrickMember
There is also the issue that the snipe(s) came one second after yours. THAT would have to be one fast manual mother-sniper to "react" to your snipe within one second. I suppose it’s possible. After all, it’s possible that region2 and I will agree on something.



Region2, do try to fully read my above posts BEFORE you disagree with me.
rickrickMember
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Note that the winning bid was 0.05 sec before my bid?????
The bid history doesn’t show hundredths of a second (perhaps instead of ".05" you meant ":05", or just "5 sec"?), unless you have a different bid history then I have. And, the winning bid was 1 second before the second highest bidder, which I assume is you.


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my bid was in the last second but my lead time was suppose to be 3 sec.
If you are the second highest bidder, then the bid was placed 5 seconds before the end of the auction. It was early by 2 seconds, but even if it was placed at the 3-second mark, the results would have been the same. If you’re the bidder with the 18:39:55 PDT bid time, seeing that no one bid after you, it’s axiomatic to say no one reacted to your snipe.


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What does all this mean
You didn’t bid enough.

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