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No amount of legislation will ever replace common sense.
It’s possible that the fashionable wisdom of the day reverses the position of “common sense” and “legislation” in that statement.



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and morons from themselves, they should just make it against the law to be a moron.
It would be nice if there were a constitutional amendment protecting the right of a person to be a stupid. But, it’s a good thing that none of us on this forum would need that kind of protection (any one disagree?). I hate to keep picking on old Chris, but with today’s beliefs, Columbus wouldn’t have been allowed to sail, due to his having been thought not particularly knowledgeable on flat-planets (aka – stupid Chris). And, OSHA (Occupational Safety & Health Administration) would definitely have prevented him from sailing with any crew (aka – stupid crew).

I can understand, and even appreciate, that in a more complicated society with extensive gadgets and a specialized labor force, that there are many more ways to unknowingly “buy the farm” than in a horse-and-buggy, agrarian society. On the other hand, I struggle with child-resistant packages that only the smarter children will be able to open. I’m not suggesting a “level-playing field”, as that would imply some kind of stupid/smart quota for maintaining a fair distribution of harm.



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When issued a drivers license, they should also issue a paintball gun. If you see someone doing something stupid, take aim and fire. Of course it would have to operate on the honor system, so that may be a bit of a snag
Have often thought of the same thing, but no honor system is needed. Only give out one paintball a year to each driver, causing them to use it more wisely. Anyone needing more would be given a ticket.

The flip side of this - some of the people on this forum might run out of paintballs no matter how many they got, and their cars could get very colorful (any one disagree?).



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but to many colors on a car or the person... they get a ticket for being stupid.
They might not be stupid, just kind of slow causing them to be an easier target.



It’s my understanding that “ignorant” was derived from “ignore”.
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...they get a ticket for being stupid
Sorry, I have to disagree. There already are too many laws. I believe the authorities' goal is to have enough laws on the books so that they can arrest anyone at anytime for SOMETHING if they are so inclined! The vast majority of laws should have expiration dates -- say maybe 5 years out -- so that as the expiration approaches, lawmakers need to re-examine laws to see if they still make sense and should be renewed.

BTW, stupidity is it's own punishment, isn't it?!
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Good point. I'll have to think on it some more.
Sounds non-committal.



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I believe the authorities' goal is to have enough laws on the books so that they can arrest anyone at anytime for SOMETHING if they are so inclined!
The authorities are exempted?



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BTW, stupidity is it's own punishment, isn't it?!
That’s the problem.
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I think we underestimate people in those times. Did they really believe the Earth was flat?
I’m not sure. Did they? Perhaps it’s another myth, but it seems to be a universal one if it is.

I have wondered how they would come up with a flat-planet theory when the two celestial bodies visible to the unassisted eye were round. Perhaps they thought it was luck, or some fluke of gravitation.
The Greeks, Egyptians, Maya, Chinese and many older civilizations were perfectly aware that the Earth was spherical, so I wonder if the 15th century Europeans just get a bad press.

I just picked up a great kit of Chris's boat. I seem to recall that there were several ships with him - does anyone know how many and whether they wer of similar size/shape?

GG
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so I wonder if the 15th century Europeans just get a bad press.
It shouldn’t be ruled out. It was known that when a sailboat was seen from a distance, the sails (software) would be spotted before the actual boat (hardware), thus suggesting a curved Earth-surface. It was also known that the North Star was higher in the horizon the further north one went, and was below the horizon at some point in the Southern Hemisphere. Of course the Southern Hemisphere was being primarily used by penguins and prisoners. Considering the treatment Galileo (Italian) got, perhaps some of the bad press for Europeans is justified.

Being born in England, you must have a certain loyalty to the Atlantic route for the discovery of the Americas. Even the Vikings’ part would lend nicely to that, although I don’t think the Vikings were much sought after at the time for their social skills. Someone said that once the Vikings found America, they had the good sense to lose it.

On the other hand, with you living in Australia, the Pacific route for the discovery of the Americas would have some appeal. I could be talked into believing that the Chinese *were* the original discovers.

There’s also the pesky theory that The Discovery was not accomplished by water, but by land over the Bering Strait during some ice age, or something like that. Those that made *that* discovery (if true) probably didn’t realize that later on *they* would be discovered. When the Europeans finally did show up, it must have been as much of a “discovery” to the locals as to the tourist. If it was a land-invasion, it seems like a roundabout way for some Siberians to be introduced to some Europeans.

*If* the flat-Earth myth was indeed believed, makes me wonder which of today’s beliefs will become tomorrow’s myths.

Back to Chris baby – curious that his journey got so much Italian press. The Spaniards were the producers of that mini-series. Perhaps it’s because the director of such productions usually gets the credit.

Regarding the number of Chris’ boats – I’m pretty sure there were five, but two of them ended up sailing off the edge.
Three Ships - four Voyages and in 1492 the first voyage landed him first not in America but Plana Cays Island in the Bahamas.
Shucks - there goes Columbus Day.....
I got an A plus on my Columbus Thesis but since the Internet almost every theory in US History books has been proven false.
The Columbus Daily ship log entries have almost all been posted on the Internet.
One thing we can't dispute he was a genius in celestial navigation. So Venus - here we come..
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In which case Tony Blur would have got a 99% score, probably well above the pass-mark!
I’m not sure, but I’ve always thought that in a lie detector test the lower the score the better. Either that, or the English really do have low expectations in their politicians. But if the higher score is the goal, I’m surprised by the 1% accuracy.
I am really enjoying Road Runner = Not a single spam or popup in 10 days. Am using a sealed laser mouse and have a new keyboard but am trying to master the crunched spacing on the laptop. My wireless feature isn't working yet so have some work to do. I am glad Halloween is over - I planned for 100 Goblins but had 75 which included a couple repeats. Kerry never showed though I had a used
bottle of Heinz saved for him. Last night I deleted AS and came back on line reading 2 year old posts. I am going
to try again I have to get back the edit
and delete Icons. I hate to sign on new with EBAY and lose my 100% rating will see.....
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I hate to sign on new with EBAY and lose my 100% rating
No need for that. Remember the forum is not a part of AS or eBay. In fact, if I understand it, you don't even have to have an account at eBay or AS to be on the forum. Don't understand why anyone would want to hang out here if they didn't, but it's not a requirement.

Just sign up for the forum again, if you think that will fix things for you. I may start over again myself if I get to close to being a deity.
OK, enough all ready. Is anyone else tired of getting phone calls with recorded messages requesting a vote for every office imaginable? I must have gotten 40 of them today and expect it will only get worse. Just got another from someone’s mother!

It's going to be a long two more days.

Google pic... I wondered why we didn’t get it here, till I figured out I was on the image page.
I can't wait until this election is over. Every day my mailbox is crammed with ads asking for votes for the candidates who are running for different offices. Can you imagine how many trees died to print all that stuff?

I still think the award for the scariest costume should go to the kid wearing a three piece suit with a name tag who claimed he was dressed as an IRS agent.
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Is anyone else tired of getting phone calls with recorded messages requesting a vote for every office imaginable?
It some how seems strange when an answering machine records recorded messages. It’s like human participation in things isn’t necessary. I suppose answering machines don’t mind listening to talking machines. Considering some of the calls that come in, the machines probably prefer one of their own kind to that of a human. I’ve never heard of answering/talking machines being rude, and they seem to have an abundance of patience … *and* perseverance. Fax machines seem to have their own culture and they are always talking to each other.

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Well it's dark here, so got to go man the front door. Later...
Second time in one day? Too bad the power didn’t go out tonight – could have saved the candy for next year.

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Can you imagine how many trees died to print all that stuff?
I was told that a lawn sign cost $10. I’ve also heard that some people aren’t putting bumper stickers on their Mercedes because they are afraid their cars will get keyed. Kind of makes me wonder about the phrase “Land of the Free.” One thing for certain - elections sure aren’t free.

Have you ever known anyone that changed their vote because of a lawn sign – and admitted it? Lawn signs sure are popular, so they must have some influence on election results. Wonder where all those signs go after the election, and the wire thingy that holds them up isn’t going to decompose in any of our lifetimes.
I know its been a long day, but I am confused!!

I must not understand the forum thingie either, how does ....
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Mrs M said:
Puppy, that will only help if you have a completely different idenity at Ebay and here! I have changed my name here and it just carries over.


relate to ....

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Puppy Said:
Just sign up for the forum again, if you think that will fix things for you. I may start over again myself if I get to close to being a deity.


I thought what Puppy was saying was correct? If Mory resigned for Auction Sniper - as a totally new ID (if he changes his current one first he will be able to still be Mory for his new ID)

Oh - I see Mrs M said this

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I may start over again myself if I get to close to being a deity.


But Puppy is still right isnt he? If he decides to resign, he doesnt need a new ebay id or anything, just a new Forum ID. Confused
As R2 pointed out yonks and yonks ago, he is on his 3rd or 4th ID, so it must not carry over.

Just trying to make sense of it all Smile
Yes lawn signs work - if only a subliminal affirmation - they are a lot of clutter ---

About a week ago a trucker lost a load of Hay on the interstate. I saw it was all picked up but one big white roll bale that half exploded up high on the bank. I see it on the way to the shopping center. About Wednesday someone stopped - ran up on the bank and sprayed BUSH on the white bag .
I noticed it and said to myself very clever - then someone added with green paint a profane
word above it. Today the highway dept removed it. After about a million impressions.....
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Mory:
Yes lawn signs work - if only a subliminal affirmation
Agree... and most who haven't a clue (if they vote at all) will vote for the one they are told to vote for by a friend... or the guy down the street with a sign. To many sheep... they want to vote for the 'winner'.
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Wonder where all those signs go after the election
I think many grow up to be garage sale signs.
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Rick:
Too bad the power didn’t go out tonight – could have saved the candy for next year.
With me in the house, it wouldn't last till Christmas.
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Mrs.M:
Puppy, did you have a bad storm of some kind?
(moved here from support)
High winds caused alot of trees to come down.
I am a little confused myself about starting over with a new ID!! LOL! What I meant was, if you want to just attach a new AS ID to your CONNECTED Ebay/AS account, your post count will roll over to the new ID. You could, of course, come in and just have an ID that was NOT connected to your existing Ebay account. Hope this clears this up....a little better! Otherwise, if you mearly change your ID, the post count will roll over, but, if you create an intirely new ID, it won't.

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