Ebay Bidding strategy question

sniper-ad1Member

Since we have had so many posts on the strategy of bidding here is a puzzle I haven't been able to solve. In a recent auction (winner list below) q_99 was the winner. How is it that q_99 bid shows 05:11:47 i.e. before the bids from others yet he never appeared in the list previously? When was his bid placed with Ebay and why didn't it show up earlier like it would with a Proxy bid.

User ID Bid Amount Date of bid

q_99 ( 510) US $59.58 Sep-14-04 05:11:47 PDT
ozarkarkie ( 139) US $59.50 Sep-14-04 20:59:18 PDT
ozarkarkie ( 139) US $57.00 Sep-14-04 20:53:36 PDT
ciaopiacere ( 16) US $54.00 Sep-14-04 18:53:17 PDT
ciaopiacere ( 16) US $52.00 Sep-14-04 18:52:47 PDT
airbornefa ( 199) US $50.00 Sep-14-04 17:55:46 PDT
hitman357 ( 130) US $43.57 Sep-14-04 01:28:55 PDT
greenarmyman_01 ( 6 ) US $25.00 Sep-14-04 01:11:24 PDT
traamanh98 ( 12) US $15.00 Sep-13-04 21:42:21 PDT
kathymellish ( 95) US $10.01 Sep-13-04 22:33:18 PDT
kathymellish ( 95) US $5.01 Sep-13-04 22:33:07 PDT
enrseg ( 13) US $1.00 Sep-13-04 22:00:11 PDT

9/15/047:38 AM

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sniper-ad1Member

Doing some research I found the following explanation. Ebay members page:
http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=sniperbill
What happened was:
q_99 placed a proxy bid of an amount greater than $59.58 at 5:11 on Sep-14. His bid would have shown up at that time slight higher that hitman357's. Various bidders came an d went between this time and Sep-14 20:59. But q_99 proxy outbid them all until he won!

9/15/049:41 AM

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bartelbyMember

Cool that you answered your own question.

We have seen this question many times and you would be surprised how many people will argue and argue that the *hidden* bidder had hacked ebay somehow.

9/15/044:09 PM

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puppyraiserMember

Sorry I didn't get to this sooner... yep your exactly right. Here is the auction.
(be around a little more often once search is fixed)

Bid history at eBay is in amount order.  The following is sorted by day/time.
First bid placed is line #1.  That should make it easier to follow the auction.
Two additional columns have been calculated and added.  They are the current 
bid and high bidder, as displayed on eBay after each bid is placed.        v2.1.09
* = Winning bid. 
 
                     Max                       Current Winning
  #    Bidder        Bid      Day & Time        Bid  &  Bidder
                   (US $)
  1   traamanh98    15.00   13-Sep  21:42:21    0.01   traamanh98   
  2   enrseg         1.00   13-Sep  22:00:11    1.25   traamanh98   
  3   kathymellish   5.01   13-Sep  22:33:07    5.51   traamanh98   
  4   kathymellish  10.01   13-Sep  22:33:18   10.51   traamanh98   
  5   greenarmyman  25.00   14-Sep  01:11:24   15.50   greenarmyman 
  6   hitman357     43.57   14-Sep  01:28:55   26.00   hitman357    
  7   q_99         *59.58   14-Sep  05:11:47   44.57   q_99         
  8   airbornefa    50.00   14-Sep  17:55:46   51.00   q_99         
  9   ciaopiacere   52.00   14-Sep  18:52:47   53.00   q_99         
 10   ciaopiacere   54.00   14-Sep  18:53:17   55.00   q_99         
 11   ozarkarkie    57.00   14-Sep  20:53:36   58.00   q_99         
 12   ozarkarkie    59.50   14-Sep  20:59:18   59.58   q_99         
         End                14-Sep  21:10:28

9/15/044:48 PM

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sniper-ad1Member

That's a very nice layout Puppy ! Thanks.

The confusion arises because Ebay in the final winners lists does not display all the intermediate action - as it were. Hence Ebayers may be led to believe there is some 'unfair' play going on. I've been an Ebayer for a few years now. Only recently did I found out about "Sniping". It sure saves a lot of time and energy with all the tools that one gets with the AS. Ps. I have also tried EZ... but thats another story !

9/16/049:19 AM

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jabbergahMember