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I will surmise that in auctions where there is active bidding going on between two or more contenders (nibblers, of course), sniping probably keeps the closing price down.

OTOH, in auctions where there is little bidding activity--perhaps only a bid or two--then my snipe ends up increasing the final price, where it otherwise would have stayed lower. You may say that an earlier proxy bid by me in the same amount would have had the same result. This may be true, but the point is that in low-activity auctions, the price was raised by my bid, whether it was an early proxy bid or a late snipe. The seller takes home more than he would had I not bid at all.

In the first situation the closing price was lower due to my snipe. In the second,it was higher. Red Face
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Originally posted by Steve:
Ah, but what is a "snip?" Definition for noun and verb, please.


"snip " (noun)
1: any of various usually slender-billed birds of the same family as the sandpipers; especially : any of several game birds (especially genus Gallinago) especially of marshy areas
2 : a contemptible person

"snip " (verb)
1 : to shoot at exposed individuals (as of an enemy's forces) from a usually concealed point of vantage
2 : to aim a carping or snide attack

Example: "In sniping, I snip the closing price of an auction."

Wink
Another benefit of sniping to snipers is that is causes the snipe to compete with the current high bidder's proxy max. In other words, if the high bidder's max is $75, but his current high bid going into the final minute only shows as $44, rather than my $80 snipe simply raising to final bid to $45, it will raise it to $76. That should certainly make the seller happy. Big Grin
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Originally posted by Chatter163:
rather than my $80 snipe simply raising to final bid to $45, it will raise it to $76. That should certainly make the seller happy.


ALL successful bids, including proxy bids, raise the closing price. The issue is, might not that snipe placed as a proxy bid cause a bidding war, there by making the seller "much more" happy?

Let the nibble go on!
Actually, I don't sell all that much - buy mostly, but my relatives sell quite a bit on eBay and they use Turbo Lister to continually list 10-20 items every Sunday evening, so as soon as one set of auctions is up, the other set is in the que ready to be posted.

They have had quite a bit of succcess with it and now have regulars that buy antiques qnd collectibles from them.
I decided to snipe both because I have a very slow net connection and I lost an item last week due to having fallen asleep in front of the TV when the auction I was bidding on ended!

However...having read what people are saying here I've realised that I really had things round the wrong way. The reason that I lost that auction is not really that I was asleep, it was that I hadn't bid my maximum on my proxy. The fact that I was cross when I realised what the item had gone for means that I was prepared to pay that much!

I'm now sniping my auctions because I can see that not letting others see I really want that item will (hopefully) help me get it within my price range, and because it helps restrain me from bidding more than I really ought to. Wink

So you see....you gang teach people about more than just sniping - it's self awareness training, too! Cool

SuperSqueaky
AuctionSnipe as a self-help tool, huh? Big Grin

You know, I can really relate to your scenario of falling asleep or getting busy with something and missing an auction I wanted to snipe.

I'm still mad at myself for losing an auction because I got caught up in painting a room and had been checking and refreshing the item page every couple of minutes, waiting for the right moment to snipe.

Wouldn't you know, I spaced it for a few moments and BAM! I missed the darn auction! Frown

Not anymore, though! Smile

I am sold on AS! It has taught me a lot too. Thanks to AS, I never place proxy bid anymore and I haven't stayed up past my bedtime to catch the end of an auction in a long time! Wink

-bjt
I Snipe #1 to save me money. Sometimes I don't win and the proxy bidder does, raising the amount to the seller. The seller is the winner of my sniping. Sniping keeps me from getting caught up in the bidding frenzy by pre-deciding what I am willing to pay for the item. I snipe #2 because a lot of the items I am interested in close after my bedtime here on the East coast and proxy bidding often cost me money. As stated earlier, a quick check in your category of interest in the early AM often results in great buys on "Buy it now"
You are right, Gabob. I have found that early morning searches have shown me some great Buy It Now opportunities. I used to depend on the eBay daily search e-mails to alert me to these, because they used to be done within the first 12-24 hours an item was listed. I still get those same eBay e-mails, but they are usually several days after the item was listed. I guess the volume of eBay auctions made the quick turnaround impossible.

So, when motivated, I do an early morning eBay search (listed in order of "items newly listed") when I arrive at work, as part of my normal e-mail routine. Red Face

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