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Using multiple sniping programs?

H halcyondazeMember
Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and to auction sniping in general, so forgive me if the following constitutes a dumb question.

How effective would it be to use multiple programs to snipe an auction at multiple time intervals? For example, have auctionsniper set to snipe at 3 secs, another online service at 5, and a desktop program like auction sentry at 10 secs. Would this in any way be an effective strategy, or redundant, or what?? The idea would be to counteract someone else's snipe down to the 3 sec. margin.

Thoughts?
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H halcyondazeMember
Thanks for replying!

The scenario I was imagining was outsniping another sniper. If for instance I snipe the item at 10 secs. remaining, and someone else immediately snipes it, then the next snipe in my chain will up that one at 5 secs., and if another bidder snipes *that* bid I have one more at 3 secs. Since I read that it isn't usually likely that you will end up bidding against yourself, this seems like it might be a sensible strategy. Make any sense, or is this a waste of time?
rickrickMember
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Originally posted by halcyon_daze:
If for instance I snipe the item at 10 secs. remaining, and someone else immediately snipes it, then the next snipe in my chain will up that one at 5 secs., and if another bidder snipes *that* bid I have one more at 3 secs.
Bid your second snipe amount as your first snipe amount - most likely no difference in the result. For someone else to place a retaliatory snipe within the last 10 seconds is next to impossible. Try it some time. 10 seconds sounds like a long time, but it goes by very quickly. A snipe that comes in after your example 10-seconds snipe would probably be someone using a sniping service/program and the snipe would have occurred regardless of your snipe.

With auctions, like other things, size *does* make a different. The bidder with the biggest bid gets the goodies (allowing for ebay increments).
H halcyondazeMember
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Originally posted by region2:
_Belt and Braces_ springs to mind. And won't you be paying for all that overkill as well? Pick your product, set your max and walk away. If you win, hooray, if you lose then someone wanted it more than you. There will be another one along soon...

R2


Well actually I was interested in constructive feedback not lame smart ass rude remarks. And no, what I was describing wouldn't have cost me any more. Where did you learn your manners, in a barn?
H halcyondazeMember
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Originally posted by Rick:
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Originally posted by halcyon_daze:
If for instance I snipe the item at 10 secs. remaining, and someone else immediately snipes it, then the next snipe in my chain will up that one at 5 secs., and if another bidder snipes *that* bid I have one more at 3 secs.
Bid your second snipe amount as your first snipe amount - most likely no difference in the result. For someone else to place a retaliatory snipe within the last 10 seconds is next to impossible. Try it some time. 10 seconds sounds like a long time, but it goes by very quickly. A snipe that comes in after your example 10-seconds snipe would probably be someone using a sniping service/program and the snipe would have occurred regardless of your snipe.

With auctions, like other things, size *does* make a different. The bidder with the biggest bid gets the goodies (allowing for ebay increments).


Thanks Rick, that's the kind of feedback I was looking for!
region2region2Member
Hmm - I just re-read my posting in light of your response and I can see no reason for your completely over-the top reaction. Just 'cos I can I will analyse what I said, explaining what I said and why I said it:-

Belt and Braces springs to mind. This is an expression describing a man who is so concerned about his trousers falling down that he uses a belt and braces (suspenders in the USA) to hold them up. Should one 'system' fail then the other should suffice to protect his modesty. I think this adequately describes the method of sniping that you used and I can see no rudeness or even slight lack of manners. So far so good...

And won't you be paying for all that overkill as well? A question! Simply asking if you would be paying twice (or more) for the multiple services you employed. I accept that the word overkill could be taken to imply that you are somewhat over-egging the pudding but I can still not see any lack of manners or overt rudeness in this sentence. Next...

Pick your product, set your max and walk away. If you win, hooray, if you lose then someone wanted it more than you. This was the advice bit. I'll explain bit-by-bit...
1. Pick your product. This was a bit amiguous in that it could be taken to mean pick the product on eBay to snipe or pick your sniping product to snipe with. Both options are appropriate so let's move on to...
2. set your max and walk away. A bit less ambiguous this time - I'm saying that you should set your max price that you want to pay and then don't return until after the Auction ends. My suggestion would prevent you returning and then joining the nibblers out there who get caught up in the excitement of it all. This advice mirrors similar guidance given everyday on this forum and no-one has been accused of lacking manners for giving it so I reckon I'm safe to continue to...
3. If you win, hooray, if you lose then someone wanted it more than you. The tone was a bit firm but the sentiment was sound. Using my advice you'll either be celebrating a win or content that someone's need for the item was such that they offered more money than you. My mother would be proud at how level-headed I have become!

Next I offered some advanced thoughts based on my experience of eBay - There will be another one along soon... - a bit like red buses in London, if you miss one then wait a bit (bus stops are best for this) another one will turn up eventually. eBay is the same - wait long enough and that item you really wanted will appear again.

I'd say that there was no smart-arse-ness about my feedback at all. It was constructive and didn't even have a limp, let alone appear lame. I look forward to a full and frank apology but I suspect that will be a bit like a white Christmas in London this year. No chance!

R2
M mikefromwestyorkshireMember
Gotta stick my two-penn'orth and say that I could see nothing at all wrong with R2's response, either.
I always think that there is no excuse for rudeness, even as a response to rudeness, which was not the case here.
IMHO this stuff belongs in the school playground - how long has homo sapiens existed on this planet? We still cannot get along with each other Frown
Wars grow from little acorns.
M mikefromwestyorkshireMember
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Originally posted by region2:
I reckon Oz is 220V or 240V otherwise there would be a revolt by all the emmigrating Brits when their toasters didn't work!

R2

'Twould toast much quicker, though, R2, and if it was a Dualit (only toaster worth bothering with) it would be an electronics-free zone! It is a little known fact that most smilies are bred on farms in the USA. Us Brits are such a miserable lot that we cannot get them to grow Eek
I idratherbeshoppingMember
Now who pray tell is using 100v.
I thought us Yanks used 120V. Or in the RVs/Boats,a lot of 12V DC if not tied to the 120v AC Systems.
Then again, I used to have a 24V DC solar system converted to 120V AC to pull the house, along with a 12V DC system tto handle the cell phone and a tv and radio in the master bedroom. AHHH those were the good old days I sure do not miss now in my old age.
region2region2Member
The reason the elements get hot is because they offer a resistance to the current. So, if you lower the voltage then the heat given out will decrease. I put a 60W 110V bulb into a 240V circuit recently (bought it by mistake - they're used on building sites in the UK for safety - which makes you wonder why it's OK in the home but not for Bob the Builder!) and it glowed very brightly. Thus a 240V bulb in 110V would shine less brightly so, by deduction, your toast would take so long that you would, if you were anything like me, have polished off all the Marmite!

This image is terrible:

R2
D daveMember
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I think you may be surprised by recording voltage for a week or so.


I once did that; I had a reasonable expectation of what I would see and the resultant chart confirmed the expectation. The voltage will drop during periods of peak demand: morning and evening, primarily. There was also a small drop aroud lunchtime.
region2region2Member
It has to be said: Borntoraisehogs - have you been beamed down from another planet? None of your postings make any sense to me!

Corrie is considered better than The Bill (in my front room at least!) - it's now on twice on Mondays, then once on Weds, Fri and even Sunday. The undercurrent of humour has me laughing out loud occasionally - Eastenders' ratings have plummeted as a result. And before I get labelled as a some sort of chav with nowt else to do, be aware that I have 2 degrees, a responsible job and I own nothing made by Burberry! Wink



R2
M mikefromwestyorkshireMember
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Originally posted by region2:
The reason the elements get hot is because they offer a resistance to the current. So, if you lower the voltage then the heat given out will decrease.

Absolutely right, R2. Maybe a bit more than half the power on 240v, though, because most resistance wire has a positive temperature coefficient, so if you halve the voltage, it runs cooler, so the resistance is lower, and the current more than half that at 240v. The effective wattage is the current squared times the resistance.
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which makes you wonder why it's OK in the home but not for Bob the Builder!) R2

One reason is that B-the-B works in a more hazardous environment - wet and messy!
If your skin is wet enough, 50 volts can kill you, assuming there is enough current available!
D dzigrrlMember
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Originally posted by Rick:
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Boy how we get off of the topic at hand.
As they say on airplanes regarding luggage in the overhead compartments - “Shift happens!”


Just lurking and following this post is hysterical! Completely deviated from orig topic & onto so many others - you all are quite entertaining, actually!
Smile
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