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Ur program sniped me!!!

S sgt-furyMember
I was testing your program to determine how effective it is. Well, your freebies cost me $1.00 on an auction. While this isn't that much, after a while, you begin to question the people who put the software together. Why on earth would your program outbid me when I was winning? A very moronic turn of events. Kinda defeats the whole purpose doesn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=2539097731&ssPageName=ADME:X:ON:US:2

sgt-fury( 87)
$26.00
Jun-20-03 07:37:26 PDT

sgt-fury( 87)
$25.00
Jun-16-03 08:48:06 PDT

nitschke1981( 0 )
$25.00
Jun-19-03 23:21:21 PDT

ebay1@nightwritervideo.com( 337)
$23.21
Jun-19-03 09:52:41 PDT

ebay1@nightwritervideo.com( 337)
$22.21
Jun-19-03 09:51:04 PDT

ebay1@nightwritervideo.com( 337)
$21.21
Jun-16-03 08:04:24 PDT

sgt-fury( 87)
$21.00
Jun-16-03 06:16:25 PDT

vance003( 912)
$20.00
Jun-15-03 14:25:08 PDT Mad
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rickrickMember
You asked AS to outbid you.

You and nitschke1981 were tied. Your proxy bid was used up. You placed a snipe at $26+, and that kicked in ebay's next increment.

AS can't, and shouldn't, take time out to check to see if you are already top bidder. That's your responsibility.

And someone could have come in at the last second and snipe your snipe. So no way for AS to know about this in the final seconds of an auction.


This is from AS' faq:
What happens if I am already the high bidder, and I snipe against myself?

This is one of the most common questions that we receive. Here is the answer straight from eBay:

"In most cases you, as a bidder, cannot bid against yourself. However, there are a few exceptions where this can occur, and I have listed these incidents for you below.

Let's say you are tied with another bidder and you hold the official high bid because you placed that bid amount first. If you place another bid, you will lost your favored "early bird" status. As a result of putting in another bid (causing you to become a later bidder), the system will increase your bid to one bid increment more than the previous bid just so that you can keep the position of high bidder.

Another instance where it would appear that you are bidding against yourself would be if your current high bid is between bid increments. If you were to place another bid, your bid will increase to the next round bid increment.

The high bid will always try to be a full bid increment over the next highest bid. If you are currently less than one bid increment over the next highest bid, then raising your maximum bid will increase the current high bid to a full bid increment above the next highest bid.

Also, in a reserve auction, if you are the current high bidder and the reserve still has not been met, your bid may be raised if you place another bid that meets the reserve amount. On reserve auctions, if your maximum proxy bid meets or exceeds the reserve amount set by the seller, the system will place a bid so that the reserve is met. This allows for an auction to be ended successfully."

[This message was edited by Rick on June 20, 2003 at 08:20 AM.]
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S sgt-furyMember
Thanks Rick. Guess I was a victim of a rare and unusual circumstance. Still a moronic turn of events nonetheless. Shoulda read the finer print.
Roll Eyes
Sara???? didn't understand your response. Someone else was bidding at the level you quote, not me...... They were testing to see where my max was.

Again, thx Rick,

SGT-Fury
Special Agent, US Army, Retired
Security Architect, Ethical Hacker.. <grin>
S steveExpertSniper
Sara's point was that if you had not bid first the other fellow wouldn't have known that you were interested and therefore wouldn't have started probing for your max bid. By the time your snipe was placed there would not be enough time for him to counter-bid.

The only time I bid "in the open" is to kill a "Buy It Now" situation so that the item will be around for a possible snipe at the end of the normal auction period. I refuse to bid more than once on a "Buy It Now" item with a reserve on it. If my bid isn't enough to meet the reserve I'll let others find out what the reserve is and decide to bid or not accordingly.

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