QUESTION: I was the current high bidder on an item, then auctionsniper bid in the last few seconds (for me) and raised my bid! So now I'm having to pay a higher amount because auctionsniper bid against me.
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Hi and Welcome 
Do you mind supplying the auction number ? It makes it easier for us to have a look at what happened.
Usually AS (auction sniper) wont bid against you as the higher bidder, unless you have 2 ebay id's or something. The only time it would increase that amount was if it needed to outbid somebody else.
As I said, its hard if we cant see what happened.
Lexie
Do you mind supplying the auction number ? It makes it easier for us to have a look at what happened.
Usually AS (auction sniper) wont bid against you as the higher bidder, unless you have 2 ebay id's or something. The only time it would increase that amount was if it needed to outbid somebody else.
As I said, its hard if we cant see what happened.
Lexie
If you place a bid yourself on ebay and also have a snipe in place,at least an increment higher, this is what happens. I NEVER do this unless it is something that cannot ever be bought again or such. I do it then, sort of, as extra protection, but I know I will be paying at least the next increment if I win.I have done this a few times.
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Lexie, go to the other forum that I see you on and you will see an example.
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Originally posted by Mrs.M:
Lexie, go to the other forum that I see you on and you will see an example.
I didn't want to post the person's name here, Rick. Hang on and let me try something.
stormyweather( 2 ) US $1,826.00 Dec-14-03 18:52:28 PST
stormyweather( 2 ) US $1,825.00 Dec-14-03 18:52:19 PST
sugarsusue( 8 ) US $1,801.00 Dec-10-03 16:38:05 PST
stormyweather( 2 ) US $1,825.00 Dec-14-03 18:52:19 PST
sugarsusue( 8 ) US $1,801.00 Dec-10-03 16:38:05 PST
I know this was an ebay bid and a snipe.
Is true! 
sunny
sunny
stayn2busy:
A second bid by the same person will sometimes raise the current price of an item.
If your first bid puts you in the lead, but not by a full bid increment, a second even higher bid will raise the price untill the full bid increment is made.
In Mrs.M's example stormyweather bid 1825 but the bid increment from 1801 is 1826. stormyweather bid again at lets say 1850 so eBay raised the price to 1826 (the next increment above 1801)
[This message was edited by Puppy Raiser on January 10, 2004 at 07:29 PM.]
A second bid by the same person will sometimes raise the current price of an item.
If your first bid puts you in the lead, but not by a full bid increment, a second even higher bid will raise the price untill the full bid increment is made.
In Mrs.M's example stormyweather bid 1825 but the bid increment from 1801 is 1826. stormyweather bid again at lets say 1850 so eBay raised the price to 1826 (the next increment above 1801)
[This message was edited by Puppy Raiser on January 10, 2004 at 07:29 PM.]
ps AS will place ALL bids you give it, even if you are already in the lead.
As long as it is a valid bid it will be accepted by eBay.
and WELCOME to the forum.
As long as it is a valid bid it will be accepted by eBay.
and WELCOME to the forum.
...of the ebay story: eBay ALWAYS will award the winning bid to the bidder that has a bid AT LEAST one bid increment more than the last winning bid, even if the same bidder holds BOTH highest bids. Ebay ONLY awards the winning bid to LESS than an appropriate bid increment when it is the ONLY higher bid. That's how some of us have experienced auction wins by just a few cents.
Jabbergah
Jabbergah
I re-read my last post, and it's not quite right! What Puppy said IS!
Jabbergah
Jabbergah
I can show 3 or 4 instances where I have been the highest proxy bidder and sniped with a higher MAX and my bid hasnt gone up at all. I have finished on my proxy - it obviously it doesnt go up all the time. I must not have ever had a case where it has upped to the next increment. (going through my snipes now)
Lexie
Lexie
Lexie,
I think the key in your cases is that BOTH of your bids (snipe & proxy) were higher than the next competitive bidder by 1 full bid increment. You end up raising your own bid when ONE of your bids is the winning bid by LESS than a bid increment.
Here's an example:
Say you are interested in an auction for which the opening bid is $25. You submit a max bid of $30 and hold the winning bid of $25. Let's say you also schedule a snipe of $35. One minute from the end of the auction, a manual sniper places a bid of $29.79. After that, you would still hold the current winning bid at $30 (which is less than the $1 increment). Ten seconds from the end of the auction, AS places your snipe of $35. After the snipe bid, you would still hold the winning bid, but NOW it would be $30.79. While it would seem like AS is letting you bid against yourself, you actually are still bidding against the manual sniper's bid. Ebay always WANTS to designate the winning bid ONE BID increment more than the last competitive bid, even though your proxy bid was sufficient to win. Make sense?
Correct me if I made goofs, guys.
Jabbergah
I think the key in your cases is that BOTH of your bids (snipe & proxy) were higher than the next competitive bidder by 1 full bid increment. You end up raising your own bid when ONE of your bids is the winning bid by LESS than a bid increment.
Here's an example:
Say you are interested in an auction for which the opening bid is $25. You submit a max bid of $30 and hold the winning bid of $25. Let's say you also schedule a snipe of $35. One minute from the end of the auction, a manual sniper places a bid of $29.79. After that, you would still hold the current winning bid at $30 (which is less than the $1 increment). Ten seconds from the end of the auction, AS places your snipe of $35. After the snipe bid, you would still hold the winning bid, but NOW it would be $30.79. While it would seem like AS is letting you bid against yourself, you actually are still bidding against the manual sniper's bid. Ebay always WANTS to designate the winning bid ONE BID increment more than the last competitive bid, even though your proxy bid was sufficient to win. Make sense?
Correct me if I made goofs, guys.
Jabbergah
I noticed a flaw in my last post. I posted:
Correction:
While it would seem like Ebay is letting you bid against yourself, you actually are still bidding against the manual sniper's bid.
Jabbergah
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would still hold the winning bid, but NOW it would be $30.79. While it would seem like AS is letting you bid against yourself, you actually are still bidding against the manual sniper's bid. Ebay always WANTS to designate the winning bid ONE BID increment more than the last competitive bid, even though your proxy bid was sufficient to win. Make sense?
Correction:
While it would seem like Ebay is letting you bid against yourself, you actually are still bidding against the manual sniper's bid.
Jabbergah
Too true Jabber. I just wanted to make sure that Stayn2busy understood that you wont always pay an extra bid increment.
Lexie
Lexie
Lexie, I think you are right because Ebay does not , if you were bidding on it's site only, let you bid against itself. I guess the times I have bid and it uped it, it was the increment thing that did it. I looked at the example and could se what puppy was saying. This is probably what happened to him in this case. No matter, small thing to win!
Thanks everyone for the explanations! That is what happened with my bid....which was not a whole bid increment....so AS bid up to the full increment....NOW I KNOW! Thanks! stayn2busy
At the risk of pre-empting Rick, our archive master: 
From AS' FAQ:
65. What happens if I am already the high bidder, and I snipe against myself?.
This is one of the most common questions that we receive. Here is the answer straight from eBay:
"In most cases you, as a bidder, cannot bid against yourself. However, there are a few exceptions where this can occur, and I have listed these incidents for you below.
Let's say you are tied with another bidder and you hold the official high bid because you placed that bid amount first. If you place another bid, you will lost your favored "early bird" status. As a result of putting in another bid (causing you to become a later bidder), the system will increase your bid to one bid increment more than the previous bid just so that you can keep the position of high bidder.
Another instance where it would appear that you are bidding against yourself would be if your current high bid is between bid increments. If you were to place another bid, your bid will increase to the next round bid increment.
The high bid will always try to be a full bid increment over the next highest bid. If you are currently less than one bid increment over the next highest bid, then raising your maximum bid will increase the current high bid to a full bid increment above the next highest bid.
Also, in a reserve auction, if you are the current high bidder and the reserve still has not been met, your bid may be raised if you place another bid that meets the reserve amount. On reserve auctions, if your maximum proxy bid meets or exceeds the reserve amount set by the seller, the system will place a bid so that the reserve is met. This allows for an auction to be ended successfully."
From AS' FAQ:
65. What happens if I am already the high bidder, and I snipe against myself?.
This is one of the most common questions that we receive. Here is the answer straight from eBay:
"In most cases you, as a bidder, cannot bid against yourself. However, there are a few exceptions where this can occur, and I have listed these incidents for you below.
Let's say you are tied with another bidder and you hold the official high bid because you placed that bid amount first. If you place another bid, you will lost your favored "early bird" status. As a result of putting in another bid (causing you to become a later bidder), the system will increase your bid to one bid increment more than the previous bid just so that you can keep the position of high bidder.
Another instance where it would appear that you are bidding against yourself would be if your current high bid is between bid increments. If you were to place another bid, your bid will increase to the next round bid increment.
The high bid will always try to be a full bid increment over the next highest bid. If you are currently less than one bid increment over the next highest bid, then raising your maximum bid will increase the current high bid to a full bid increment above the next highest bid.
Also, in a reserve auction, if you are the current high bidder and the reserve still has not been met, your bid may be raised if you place another bid that meets the reserve amount. On reserve auctions, if your maximum proxy bid meets or exceeds the reserve amount set by the seller, the system will place a bid so that the reserve is met. This allows for an auction to be ended successfully."