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I had auctionsniper try to get me an amp on ebay. Had the time set at 4 seconds before end. According to the history, AS kicked in at 20 - I REPEAT 20 - seconds before the end, not 4 as I had requested. The winner had a higher maximum bid than mine. Is this normal for Sniper to place it's bids whenever it feels like it instead of the time I set it for? Mad

Bill Trimble
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Yes it is. The auction ended at exactly 7pm and 0 seconds.

I dare you, double dare you, tripple dare you, to find an item that ends at 7pm, and try to place a bid on it with less than 15 seconds. See what happens.

You'll lose 9 out of 10 because your bid wont even make it to eBay.

We have about 1 zillion posts on that here. I hate eBay, and I hate their f'ing scheduling feature for sellers. 60 zillion auctions all end at exactly 7pm,7:30, 8pm. eBay is all but unreachable at those times. Either we bid early or your bid doesnt get there at all.
The person who outbid you place his bid of $91 or more (you bid $90) over two minutes before AuctionSniper placed your snipe. You would have
lost even if AS put it in at 17:59:59.

Why the hell would you want to blow $90 on this
piece of crap amp anyway. I'm not sure I'd spend
$90 on it if it were working.
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Originally posted by bim*ecs:
I had auctionsniper try to get me an amp on ebay. Had the time set at 4 seconds before end. According to the history, AS kicked in at 20 - I REPEAT 20 - seconds before the end, not 4 as I had requested. The winner had a higher maximum bid than mine. Is this normal for Sniper to place it's bids whenever it feels like it instead of the time I set it for? Mad

Bill Trimble


Someone else had a HIGHER bid. There is NO WAY that you would have won at 1, 4, 20, 200 or 200 seconds, because someone else OUTBID you. The high bid always wins, regardless of when it was placed. Did you not bid your max???? Confused
The guy's sentiment seems to be that when AS put in his snipe early, the winning bidder had time to counterbid. Just for now, never mind that the winning bidder had placed a higher bid earlier than our hero's bid. What this guy needs to understand is that the traffic jam on eBay in auctions that end on the even hour, half-hour, or quarter-hour apply to snipers and proxy bidders alike. There's no way a proxy bidder could have gotten a counterbid through either.

It's a poor workman that blames his tools. Roll Eyes
Actually both you guys are right. Someone did have a higher bid. The higher bid was placed at 18:57:39PDT. AS placed my bid at 18:59:40PDT. The winning bidder, however, came back to boost his bid at 18:59:58PDT (these times came from the history section of the item being bid on). If auctions end at the half-hour or on the hour, and figuring computer traffic and everything else in on this whole scenario, how did the winning bidder make his bid at 2 seconds before the end of the auction when AS made mine 20 seconds before the auction's end? That's all I wanna know.

The bid I made was my maximum bid.

I guess I must be a poor workman, because in this case I am blaming my tools. To me - and please explain where I'm wrong here - even if I was outbid before AS placed my bid, why wasnt it placed at the time I requested? Obviously the eventual winner was able to beat computer and ebay traffic and get his bid placed at 2 seconds before the end of the auction. If AS isnt able to do it's job as it says it is supposed to, then why am I using it? It seems in this case I would have been better off not using AS and waited for the auction's end myself and timed it out. AS says it will place my bid at the time I select, so obviously they have this whole space/time continuum thing figured out....

I want to thank you Steve for being on my side on this, but there still is a problem here that I'd like someone from AS to explain to me. All I wanted was to have my bid, even if it was a losing bid, placed at the time I selected, not the time of their choice.

Bill Trimble
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how did the winning bidder make his bid at 2 seconds before the end of the auction when AS made mine 20 seconds before the auction's end? That's all I wanna know.


Perhaps we bid at 30 seconds and it took eBay 10 seconds to accept it due to their slowness. Perhaps he then bid at 20 seconds and it made it at 2 seconds, nearly not making it all.

We're snipe experts. We have more data, and more info than anyone besides eBay about bidding, when to bid, and when not to bid. We dont make any money unless you win. So you can be darn sure we're going to do everything possible in our power to get you that win.

eBay will probably figure out that bidders are missing bids at these times and start spreading out their sellers scheduled listings, until then snipes on the hour and half hour are dangerous. Bid manually if you feel it would be safer on those items.
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It seems in this case I would have been better off not using AS and waited for the auction's end myself and timed it out.

There is no way. You'll end up missing the bid altogether. Your bid wouldnt be accepted by eBay in time.

Just because his bid was entered at 2 seconds, doesnt mean he didnt click the submit button until then. He probaby clicked it at closer to 15 seconds and barely got it in.

But as I said, if you think you can do better than a computer that is tracking eBays lag times and is sniping from multiple sites to ensure bids get placed then try it. Next time you see a snipe on something at 7pm try it manually at 4 seconds.
Hey Ron
Why are you calling an old Acoustic amp a piece of crap anyway? And if it is crap, just what do you call a good amp? It had better either be a handmade boutique amp such as a Kendrick or Trainwreck, not a frigging Peavey or something from some assembly line, like 90% of the stuff out there.
I'm different. I like buying good dead amps to bring them back to life again. It's amazing how much money this stuff brings when it's working. Besides, I wanted the dead Acoustic so I could either fix it and resell it and see why channel A on the same model amp I have is distorted, assuming the dead amp up for auction just had a simple problem, like a dead internal fuse, dead rectifier network or blown outputs.

Bill Trimble
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All I wanted was to have my bid, even if it was a losing bid, placed at the time I selected, not the time of their choice.


Then you'd lose the auction because your bid would be late, then you'd be right back here complaining we didnt place your bid. It's a lose/lose situation for us. Bid early and people complain, bid late and they complain.

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