Paying for PayPal

Do you mean it s 50% more than paypal charge him for the use?

Send him this:
PayPal Surcharging Policy Update



Notice Date: July 10, 2003
Effective Date: July 25, 2003
PayPal's No Surcharge Policy has been updated to clarify when surcharging may occur in the United Kingdom. Section V of the Payments (Sending, Receiving, and Withdrawals) Policy describes the conditions under which sellers residing in the UK and listing items for sale on a UK-based website may impose a surcharge (a fee to the buyer for accepting credit card payments).

The conditions are:


Both the buyer and the seller reside in the United Kingdom.
The purchase price is paid in Pounds Sterling.
The surcharge imposed by the seller is no greater than is necessary to recover the receiving fees incurred by the seller.
The seller clearly indicates to the buyer prior to the buyer's submission of a bid or (in non-auction transactions) prior to the completion of the purchase that a surcharge will be incurred, and the amount of the surcharge
PayPal continues to discourage surcharging as it believes it is detrimental to both buyers and sellers. We will continue to evaluate the effects and incidences of surcharging on our community over the coming months and may continue to revise our policies on this issue in the future.

There was no mention of a surcharge until I won the auction and he sent his instructions. Everything has gone quiet now and I just hope I haven't upset him to much with my comments. I really want that book!

Personally, I think that stinks!

It sounds like you’re paying £1.00 for the convenience of using Paypal. If you want the book, and you don’t think that’s excessive, and you want to use Paypal, then regardless of its odor, I’d do it.

He's got another 10 auctions live at the moment. Am I allowed to say who he is?

Will it help to tell us who it is?

I'll wait until I get my book!

Well, you really aren't supposed to post his name...but an auction#...well, that happens all the time! I for one do buy books sometimes and that would make me mad. I simply don't think I would want it that much.

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Originally posted by Peterborough:
I'll wait until I get my book!

Good thinking!

When you wink at me like that Serenity I'm putty in your hands. Steer clear of these particular books unless you end up paying more than you expected.

Forgot the number, 4529384932, (is my face red)!

Peter, you made me laugh! I'll have to curb those winks!

I noticed he is a new seller. I wonder if he knows the rules!

I think his feedback will point out the error of his ways. My fingers are itching!

Hi Rick, I see the bras are back!

If it were me, I don't think I would do that! I would tell him that you intend to go ahead with the sale, but ask him if is he aware he is breaking a TOS...and send him a copy. If he still does not refund the difference back, then I would neg him after I received the product....or at least give him a netural.

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Originally posted by Peterborough:
Hi Rick, I see the bras are back!

Hi back. It's a weakness on my part.

I'll do that after I receive the book Serenity. He can keep the quid, he must need it more than I do! (I must stop ending sentences with exclamation marks!)

Rick, do they make adhesive underpants?

That was somewhat addressed in the thread (see adhesive athletic supporter).

Helps keep them on the washing line I suppose.
Hey, I just noticed I'm not a Sniper In Training anymore, now I feel like part of the 'gang'.

“Gang” like in “chain”.

Why do such sellers not add the Paypal "fee" into their starting price?

It sounds like a case of blaming Paypal for their own greed.

GG

"Heavy Metal or no metal at all!"

GG, exactly right! It is part of the cost of selling an item!

Are we still talking about the same auction? The one at the beginning of this topic?

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The conditions are:

1) Both the buyer and the seller reside in the United Kingdom.
2) The purchase price is paid in Pounds Sterling.
3) The surcharge imposed by the seller is no greater than is necessary to recover the receiving fees incurred by the seller.
4) The seller clearly indicates to the buyer prior to the buyer's submission of a bid or (in non-auction transactions) prior to the completion of the purchase that a surcharge will be incurred, and the amount of the surcharge.

1) We know the seller is British. Is Peterborough not? (Sorry, I always thought he was.)
2) The £5.50 price was in GBP, was it not?
3) Does a small charge of £1 not reflect this?
4) Assuming the winning bid was a snipe, it was not possible for the seller to provide a notice to the buyer, correct?

Sorry, I guess I am just not following this one.

I understand what you are saying Chatter, but we all, as sellers, have fees. I don't ever know exactly what my seller's final fees will be with paypal and ebay. I estimate an aproximate and that amount is added into the cost of the item. It is part of my selling costs. Sometimes, it may be a little over and other times a little under, but it will average out. I do the same with postage. I think it would have been more fitting if this fellow had either stated in his auction that there would be a certain % added at the end for his surcharge if you used paypal or do as I suggested.

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Originally posted by Peterborough:
He can keep the quid, he must need it more than I do!

I’m sure glad someone has a proper perspective on this. Imagine how much excitement this would have generated if it were two quid!

quote:

Originally posted by Chatter:
3) Does a small charge of £1 not reflect this?

I agree.

Well, when Paypal starts charging me that percentage, I will stop using them! I fail to understand if you want it bad enough, just pay the extra! That to me is an unethical decision.
What unearthly good does it do to shop Ebay for a bargain and give away the savings? I never, never bid unless I know what an item's total cost will be on top of my bid. If someone added on at the end, they would keep their item.

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Originally posted by Serenity:
Well, when Paypal starts charging me that percentage, I will stop using them! I fail to understand if you want it bad enough, just pay the extra! That to me is an unethical decision.[cr]
What unearthly good does it do to shop Ebay for a bargain and give away the savings? I never, never bid unless I know what an item's total cost will be on top of my bid. If someone added on at the end, they would keep their item.

PayPal's Policy:

quote:

V. No Surcharges.
You agree that you will not impose a surcharge
or any other fee for accepting PayPal as
payment on eBay.co.uk. This is in accordance
with eBay U.K.'s surcharging policy which
states:
"Sellers who accept electronic money services
as a means of payment for an item purchased on eBay may not impose a surcharge.

PayPal is an electronic money payment system. When you accept a PayPal payment, you are accepting e-money. You are not accepting a debit or credit card payment, even where the sender may have funded his or her PayPal account with a debit or credit card in order to fund the transaction with you. Nothing in this policy is intended to affect the legal right of a merchant in the U.K. to impose a surcharge for a debit or credit card transaction under the Credit Cards (Price Discrimination) Order 1990.

A seller has just said that they'll knock off 70p if I don't pay by PayPal - a hidden surcharge!

R2

R2 that is interesting!

I'm in two minds wether to report him to PayPal - probably not worth the effort!

R2

It would irk me to no end!

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I'm in two minds wether to report him to PayPal

>> wether here <<

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(I must stop ending sentences with exclamation marks!)

So long as you only use one - you are OK!

Wether might be a little strong, R2 whether you are unhappy or not!