newbie question

It was a tie bid. In case of a tie, first bid wins. $15.01 would have won.

yes, I figured it was tied, I've changed my pending snipes to +.50. what about the times, both PDT but his is 12:41:52, 4.5 hours after mine (?) which I know is not possible...

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but his is 12:41:52

You're forgetting about the date. His was placed on Aug 23rd and your bid was placed Aug 29th.

still a bit confused, sorry... his bid of $15 had to come at the same time as mine, otherwise he would be listed as an earlier bidder in the bid history, no? the only earlier bid was dune493 on Aug-29-05 07:41:06 PDT for $10. How can the winning bidder bid days earlier (Aug 23) without it showing up?

You might want to read the following:
Proxy or Automatic Bidding

ok, I've read it over and I have a question about sniping: I had assumed if I set up a snipe today for an item that ends in a week, AS communicates that bid to ebay seconds before, so my bid is dated for that final few seconds. My new understanding is, if AS is set today for an item that ends days later, then today is the date of my bid, even though the bid isn't listed until the very end. Is this correct? Was I outbid by another sniper who placed his snipe on Aug 23?

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Is this correct?

No. It's the date/time the bid (snipe) is placed with ebay, and not when you set up the snipe in AS.

k, thanks.

When your snipe went through in the final seconds, vinyladdict already was listed as the high bidder, but at $10.25, which was one increment above the previous high bid of $10. You had no way of knowing what vinyladdict's maximum bid was (you still do not), just that he was ahead.

Rather than simply adding .50 cents, bid in unusual amounts, e.g., $15.38, $9.34, $27.62, etc.

Thanks for the input C. What confuses me is that there were no bids hours before closing when I first set up my snipe, and then poof, this guy appears outta nowhere. I've been reading up, apparently eBay shows only latest bids sometimes, (?). Here's another example that doesn't make sense to me - http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=4761011086
kilogram4prez shows up as the 4th bidder @ $20 but <b> 3</b> days <b>before</b> anyone else has bid. How can you bid 3 times higher than earlier bids but get backdated?
I will take your odd increments advice, thanks.
Long live AS. heh.

This is a very common point of confusion among newbies, and appears quite regularly in this forum. Remember that eBay lists the bids in order of amount, and NOT chronologically. This tends to confuse people who, despite realizing this fact, still tend to want to see bids chronologically in their heads. (I know that I do.)

The short answer is that the winning bidder DID place the bid days before, and it WAS listed at the time, but since the amount shown was not higher than your own planned snipe, you did not notice it. Now before you insist otherwise, as a newbie please understand that we get this same question all the time, and some newbies will SWEAR that the winning bid absolutely, positively was NOT there beforehand. But I can assure you that it was; you simply did not notice it because the amount was not higher than your own planned snipe. The higher amount was not revealed until your snipe raised the existing high bid. Remember that the winning bid only shows once, at the time it was made, but its amount will change, depending on the other bidders.

I would ask anyone who would still swear up and down that the bid was there, exactly what amount the high bid was showing at whatever point in the auction they claim it was there, by whom, and at what time. Of course, they generally cannot answer these questions, so their claims end up being groundless.

In any event, good luck with future snipes.

It is always the highest bid that wins (as long as it is in the set step they have). That is why it is important to know what you consider your limit for that gizmo, and place your snip accordingly.
That is why the bid groups are so helpful. You set your price and stick to it. Sooner or later, WHOOPEEEEE..........!!!