How could this be possible?

Hi v,

It's called proxy bidding. These links should help explain how it works:
http://members.cox.net/cruentidei/ebay/proxy.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/proxy-bidding.html
http://www.auctionsniper.com/faqebay.aspx#faq_13a_lbl



P.S. You’ll not catch me commenting about the last bid versus the biggest - NEVER.

...i c. thx very much, Rick.

But the winner's proxy is not hidden from others until it's won the auction. When one places a proxy, it should show the user name as the lead. How does one hide it?

It is hidden because you never know what the high bidder's maximum bid was, before, during or after the auction.

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It is hidden because you never know what the high bidder's maximum bid was, before, during or after the auction.

The one exception is if the winning bidder is less than one increment from the second highest bidder. Then one can tell the high bidder's maximum bid.

Also, Dutch Auctions are another exception, but no one knows how they work anyways.

But as a leading bidder, we should see the name. The internal ebay proxy does require you to place your bid on their server and only display the hihgest bid needed to maintain your leading position.

It's gotta be another type of sniping things that can fool the sever's clock as the time the snipe was placed onto the sniping software's clock, as opposed to be ebay's clock.

I just won a bid with AS and the final price is just one increment then the second highest bid. The second highest bid was nowhere to be found during the auction but all of a sudden, her bid came up 1 day b4 mine. Thankfully, I was fully expecting it and willing to pay more so AS snipes for more on my behalf.

Check this:
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5470577582

When I placed the sniper bid yesterday, which was not shown on eBay's site, "deermere's bid at US $5.10" was the highest. All of a sudden, beatah123 bidded on Feb 16th and AS bidded for me jlee_28 on Feb 17th and thank God she's 50 cents shied.

Help!!! I hate hidden bidder!!

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Help!!! I hate hidden bidder!!

Hi JLee,

Don't understand, but that happens to me often. In the bid history link you left, who would you say was the "hidden bidder" and what makes them "hidden"?

beatah123 was hidden for sure cos she was nowhere to be found on Feb 16th and all of a sudden, she came up with US$21.05 bidded 1 day b4 I did.

Somebody fools the ebay's server clock. Because the definition of who wins put first priority to price, second priority to time. Therefore, this hidden sniping thing is a killer.

JLee,

No one can change the timestamp for a bid. beatah123’s bid was placed and recorded on the 16th. Now, once beatah123 placed their bid, the auction price would have been $5.60 (deermere’s $5.10 bid plus one increment of $.50).

Also, before beatah123’s bid, the auction price would have been $1.25 (snoopy4world’s $1.00 bid plus one increment of $.25) and deermere was the high bidder.

Did you bring up the auction after beatah123’s bid on ebay, or were you watching it thru AS?

I hope this helps?

No it's not. I monitored the auction till one day b4 to place it on auction sniper and I watched the count down till the end. At the time the snipping bid was placed, the winning price was $5.10. Next time, I'll record the whole thing to you guys, event by event but we dunno who has this system out there.

They're not changing the time stamp. They just have ways to record their bidding time one day earlier though the bid wasn't placed till a few seconds b4 auction ends.

Same thing happened yesterday. Dat's why I raised my sniper's bidding max and I won.

Same thing happens:
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5470194973

sb_mercedesgirl was nowhere to be found until last minute and she placed a bid with "Yesterday's date".

How do we reflect this to AS?

compared this here:
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=5470222158

mundinho's proxy $36 outbids liongirl1999's $35 bid. Time stamp on mundinho's $36 bid is the same as her $31.50 bid.

Whereas in the example above, the winning bid "placed" one day ago was nowhere to be found as the leading bid.

It's a time stamp fooling system. Oh gosh.. I wish I knew. Damn it!

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Originally posted by JLee:
Time stamp on mundinho's $36 bid is the same as her $31.50 bid.

JLee,

Maybe it’s my computer, but mundinho’s $36 bid was place 17:41:47 EST and their $31.50 bid was placed 17:41:17 EST. That’s not the same time, but 30 seconds difference. Looks like mundinho placed two different bids, 30 seconds apart.

If you’re convinced that these bidders have some why to place “hidden” bids, you might want to contact them and ask them how they do it. You could also get on the ebay forums and see if anyone has some information.

yeah.. I'm very convinced.. cos I watched it all the way.. their bids were nowhere to be found till the end.. U watche the aftermath and believe it's true.. it's NOT you computer at all.