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Hi Folks,

Sorry to have been away for so long. Hope all is well. Welcome to the newbies. Glad your here.

Now for me (and we all know how smart I am.)

I sort of understand Dutch Auctions. I know that as long as I'm high bidder and the seller still has the quantity I want, I win that amount.

Well, I came across a seller who was selling fabric by the yard. I put in a snipe for "3" yards and the price. When I came home from camping, the snipe is still in "My Snipes" The auction has ended but the winnings aren't in "My eBay" or "My Wins."

What am I missing? How did I mess up? Is there something special that I am suppose to do for Dutch Auctions? Confused

Thanks,
Crafty

Six inches Lord, that's all I need!
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Welcome back, Crafty! We've missed you!

As a general thing, it's not a good idea to snipe a Dutch Auction. You can wind up driving the unit price up with a snipe. It's been suggested that the best way to handle a Dutch Auction is to put in a bid that is the number of items you want multiplied by the average unit price at the time of your bid. That sounds excessive, but the person who suggested it says that the maximum price calculated in that fashion is rarely reached, and the bidder gets her quantity filled first at a lower rate than the actual bid amount. At least that's what I understood the suggester to say. Rick, do you think you can dredge that Dutch Auction post out of the archives?

As for what happened with your snipe, well, if you'll let us have the auction number we'll check it out. In your absence eBay has had a couple of major offline events, and AS actually went into the tank once, briefly. Or, your bid could have hit eBay at a time of high bid volume and never chopped through eBay's servers before the auction closed. Eek
Crafty, I found the post I was thinking about:

This was posted by RhinoBoy on June 12, 2003:

"I don't usually snipe dutch auctions because the timing of the bid is so important. Dutch auctions are more like those who get in line first win. The people who bid early get to place lower bids because of the bid increment requirements.

"Here is what I mean:
* There are 10 items for sale.
* Current bid is 1.00
* I figure the value of the product to me is 10.00
* I want 6
* There currently are 8 bids for 1.00 each.
* I bid 10.01 for 6

"Now why would I do that? Everyone keeps bidding at the lower level with the bid increment increasing at minimum increment. Now two things can happen:

* Bidding stops way lower than my 10.01. This is great for me because I get all 6 for the winning lowest bid. If the lowest bid is $2.00, I get 6 for 2.00 each. I have the highest bid so I get my 6 even if the 2.00 bidder wanted all 10.

* Bidding gets to the 10.00 range. I have an advantage because my bid was at that range 1st. If someone else bids 10.01 and wants all 10, I still get my 6 because I bid first. The other advantage is the bid increment thing. One time I didn’t bid early and the bid increment stopped me from bidding. Say in this case, the next available bid would be 11.00 and it wasn’t worth it to me. Everyone got theirs for 10.00 and I would have been one of them if I had bid earlier.

"Sorry if this gets confusing, I’m trying to be brief here for the sake of those who aren’t really interested. This strategy has been so successful for me that I deliberately search for dutch auctions. I find I get a much better deal because it requires having so many people willing to pay top dollar. That usually doesn’t happen."

Hope this helps. Smile
Hi Steve. Feels great to be back. Real live toilets and running water, a frigerater and a HOT shower!

That post just confused me more.

I hope I did this right. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2339532268

I knew I wouldn't be back in time to get it, so I just went ahead and set a snipe. It looks like this lady hasn't sold all of the material (but she did sell some) so I'll go do the bid thing. Now I know what to do about Dutch Auctions. Don't snipe!! lol

Thanks again,
Crafty

Six inches Lord, that's all I need!

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