Janie, hope you don't mind, I copied it from your post!!
I use Village also, but if I want animations I go to google as others here do also. A good all around animation site is http://www.animationlibrary.com/a-l/ Although, you will find thousands more on google. I generally use Village for storage. If you look at the top of the sign on page, you will see where to look at anyone's open animations. Not usually too thrilling.
M said:
quote:Was I right, or was I right? The animation queen.
I use Village also, but if I want animations I go to google as others here do also. A good all around animation site is http://www.animationlibrary.com/a-l/ Although, you will find thousands more on google. I generally use Village for storage. If you look at the top of the sign on page, you will see where to look at anyone's open animations. Not usually too thrilling.
This thread prompted me to a thought about the manual sniping I used to do. I used to go through the 'place a bid' button and enter the figure on the next page then confirm it but on the next page not 'submit' yet. 2 'backs' then gets you to the item decscription to monitor it - in the last few secs you go 'forward' 2 pages and hit submit.
NOW for the 'meat'
Because the 'current' winning bid value is checked on the screen where the new bid figures were entered perhaps 10 mins ago this check is done on old data. So my question is whether this can lead you to a lower than standard increment win?
Scenario: I get my bid ready to go when the item price is 10 and prepare a bid of 20.66 - then go and monitor the situation and keep track of time - say a new bidder 'Fred' comes in and is shown as having a highest bid of 14.50 - then as I head off through the 'forward' keys to submit my bid someone else has processed a bid of 20.50 in the face of Fred's bid which had a max of 20.25 - now I don't know about this as I hit the 'submit' button - my question is whether this bid would be rejected - because the check is normally carried out on the page I bypassed at the end of the auction - and when I keyed it it was ok.
I have a sneaking suspicion that in these circumstances my new bid might stand and win the auction. It could happen fairly normally with two bidders both placing bids at almost the same time so both going the the usual increment check against an earlier and lower bid - then both hitting submit.
Anyone got any opinions on this?
NOW for the 'meat'
Because the 'current' winning bid value is checked on the screen where the new bid figures were entered perhaps 10 mins ago this check is done on old data. So my question is whether this can lead you to a lower than standard increment win?
Scenario: I get my bid ready to go when the item price is 10 and prepare a bid of 20.66 - then go and monitor the situation and keep track of time - say a new bidder 'Fred' comes in and is shown as having a highest bid of 14.50 - then as I head off through the 'forward' keys to submit my bid someone else has processed a bid of 20.50 in the face of Fred's bid which had a max of 20.25 - now I don't know about this as I hit the 'submit' button - my question is whether this bid would be rejected - because the check is normally carried out on the page I bypassed at the end of the auction - and when I keyed it it was ok.
I have a sneaking suspicion that in these circumstances my new bid might stand and win the auction. It could happen fairly normally with two bidders both placing bids at almost the same time so both going the the usual increment check against an earlier and lower bid - then both hitting submit.
Anyone got any opinions on this?
Most manual snipers use two windows rather than the forward and back buttons, and have the submit screen ready for 10 minutes or more. You're idea is logical, but don't believe it would work that way. eBay must go through all the checks again once the submit button is hit. Otherwise, we might see it quite often on sniped auctions.
I *have* seen 'invalid' bids recorded at eBay in the bid history. It does happen, however not for the reason you suspect.
Lets suppose there is an auction with an opening price of $10... no bids yet, but two snipers want to bid. Sniper A bids 10.01 and sniper B bids 10.02
If sniper A bids first, B's bid should be rejected as too low. It's rare, but sometimes B's bid is accepted!!! Here's why.
The two bids arrive at eBay very close together, (guessing here... within 1 or 2 milliseconds of each other). A's bid arrives and processing at eBay begins. If B's bid arrives before eBay finishes processing and recording A's bid, eBay will accept B's bid and 'work it out' at auction end. Both bids are recorded in the history, and B wins by one cent. If the bids are the same amount, A wins the tie, even if only by a few milliseconds.
I *have* seen 'invalid' bids recorded at eBay in the bid history. It does happen, however not for the reason you suspect.
Lets suppose there is an auction with an opening price of $10... no bids yet, but two snipers want to bid. Sniper A bids 10.01 and sniper B bids 10.02
If sniper A bids first, B's bid should be rejected as too low. It's rare, but sometimes B's bid is accepted!!! Here's why.
The two bids arrive at eBay very close together, (guessing here... within 1 or 2 milliseconds of each other). A's bid arrives and processing at eBay begins. If B's bid arrives before eBay finishes processing and recording A's bid, eBay will accept B's bid and 'work it out' at auction end. Both bids are recorded in the history, and B wins by one cent. If the bids are the same amount, A wins the tie, even if only by a few milliseconds.
quote:If I’m understanding this correctly, it's hard to believe that ebay wouldn’t have already discovered this problem, especially considering the number of bids they have processed. One way to test this is to try this on the start of some auction. Leave the “confirm” window open and wait for someone to bid. It might take a day or two, but then you could do it on multiple auctions.
I have a sneaking suspicion that in these circumstances my new bid might stand and win the auction.
I seem to have missed all the cases of *one-up-manship* - I hate it when I do that 