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The Crusader turns infidel

Ooh you have a wicked turn of phrase young Rick!

I genuinely appreciated that summary

Barbed, but clever and that is rare these days!

Good Night!

Paul

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Camera:

Rick does his absolute best - often under trying circumstances and gets all sorts of "flak" from clueless "Goons" who just will not bother to read what he says.

When it gets to the point of stupidity, I normally wade in and give the offender a good "verbal kicking" This sets them off in generally saying:

"I am a paid hack for AS" and I am very rude.

I find you entertaining and informative![B]

Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.

[B]Yes, but I think you have to bitch-slap morons like JP, especially when they keep coming back for more, telling you that you are wrong, but regurgitating the essence of what you JUST said to them as if it were their own original idea. THAT is the point the trigger needs to be pulled, and escort the offender to the door, hopefully to never bear witness to his/her stupidity EVER again. Like you said...

It means the idiots move off and never return.

Could I give sensible advice about sniping? Yes, but as you can see I haven't the patience `that Rick has to deal with "those of little brain"

Again, your advice is right on the money, so kudos...

I joined eBay in 1999 and use AS for all my bidding activities. I spend several thousand dollars a year collection information for my web site, which then gives me a steady income to support me in my old age! So yes, I am a experienced sniper, but like all things you need to develop tactics to suit your marketplace.

I joined in 2001, but am new to sniping (automated fashion)

Your advice is right on the money, should be packaged and put on the FAQ page for new-comers....


What might be good for sellers is not necessarily so for buyers,

AMEN, my brother! ...

Without us, the clients of eBay would simply be poorer!

DAMN STRAIGHT!...

Now we come to the point of confusion. AS is only a very rule bound and rigid proxy bidder. If you set a total for AS to bid, it will do exactly as you instructed. It will bid once and bid the sum you set. It does this in the closing seconds of the auction. It has one cartridge in its barrel and it fires it - once.

I don't get why JP (or anyone else for that matter) gets confused over how AS or any other automated snipe tool works. I am not trying to pat my own back, but I read about AS, and in moments understood, at least that much. It is not rocket science! Again, well said by you, put a link on the FAQ page to this string!...

If you place a bid with eBay for a $1000 (never do - always bid $1002.67 - an irregular sum - Why? Gamesmanship!)

Great advice for all!...

Now here's the rub - it will bid for you as long as you have "money in the kitty" So if somebody doubles the $2 to $4, it will bid $5 for you and keep on raising your bid each time someone else retaliates. That's why it pays not to place any money with ebay's system for it will spend it in a trice for you!

Again, why we NEED AS! And, no different (but better) than any good strategist with experience on eBay would do. Just WAY faster, more reliable and the biggest thing, you don't have to hang at your PC! BINGO!!! ...

Yesterday I cancelled a bid, because I saw I could get it cheaper elsewhere! Also you can "up your bid" if you see at a later time that you had set a lower bid than the prevailing price.

Other advantages besides not driving up the price like the eBay system. You are a hidden bidder - you do not affect the price by bidding. Sounds daft? Not really, by hiding your intentions, you often get the item cheap because no one else has noticed it. How often does curiosity drive you to investigate something because you see a crowd gathering? That's why bidding frenzy starts - people are driven by what they see other's do.

VERY good practicle advice, and who said you weren't going to take the time to teach us all something???...

"Should you manually bid?" The answer to that is "only if it is something very rare or vital to you"

Sage!...

Happy Sniping

Thanks Paul, same to you! Always a BIG fan of MPFC.

NOW P*** O**, I HAVE WORK TO DO!!! hehe. That is fun, I could like UK life!...[/B]

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Originally posted by LindyLou:
Thank you for posting this question which I didn't even know I had until I saw it-and had a snipe in on a no-bidder auction ending soon-I am new but will only use AS since a friend told me about it--AS really is the only way to go- -but-after reading all the posts on this I was even more confused and getting nervous-well I am only commenting in case someone else got confused too-You do not need to put in any bid but one you make with AS . And if you get another ID and put in a minimum bid then you will a little more than you would if you just trusted AS. I went back and looked at my old snipes and it turns out that I had already sniped a no-bidder auction and I won with the minimum bid. AS just put in my bid, which was high and recognized the minimum bid the seller had put in-so if anyone else is confused too just wanted to say-Trust AS to do what you would do if you were bidding manually-Ebay doesn't care if there are no bidders-you will win as bidder number one-and pay the same as if you had done it yourself- the minimum-Thanks AS

Well said.
Clearly some replies on here just added to more confusion. Hence your post!

The proof of the pudding was revealed today.
I put in a manual Ebay bid for 0.01, as no one had actually bid so at to make myself the first bidder. I then set up a much higher bid using AS.
I was delighted to get an email from AS saying
Congratulations! You've won this item using Auction Sniper.

Oh and the price 0.01.

I hope that helps others.
You can use AS to bid against yourself and
you don't need to worry about AS firing in your maximum bid and outbidding yourself IF no one else bids.